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6/9/08 1:04:48 PM
hey there fellow atomics, im recently new to the forums and need help with a pc build

this is the first rig ive put together for pure gaming purposes (with some wordprocessing and spreadsheets on the side)

im kind of lost for what would be best for my needs and just done a bit of browsing around to get a general idea and this is what ive come up with so far

PC Build
Graphics - Sapphire HD4870x2 - $669
CPU - Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 - $222
Mobo - ASUS P5q Deluxe Motherboard - $268
Ram - CORSAIR TWIN2x4096-6400C5 4gb (2x2gb) 5-5-5-18 - $119
HDD - WD3000GLFS Velociraptor 300gb 10krpm 16mb sata2 = $359
Optical Drive - ?
Case - Antec 1200? - $240
PSU - Antec TruePower Quattro 1000w -$275
Monitor - SyncMaster 305T - $1 749
Keyboard - Logitech G15 Keyboard - $92
Speakers - Looking for good 3:1 or 5:1 surround sound system
Mouse - Logitech G5 Laser - $69
OS - Vista Ultimate 64bit w/sp1 - $239

Total = $4301
(Prices from pcmaniac)

Ill also be looking to oc the system once its in place

anyway to help cut costs and help in general would be greatly appreciated :)


6/9/08 1:18:37 PM

swap raptor for 640g wd $90 much the same transfer speeds just the raptor has quicker seek times which helps with scattered files
corsair 750w $190 will be heaps of power unless you get two 4870x2 which that mb isnt suited to
vista home will likely do unless there is something you nee din ultimate
pioneer 216 is a high quality dvd burner

since your spending so much the e8600 is a very good overclocker and may be worth the extra $100 to you

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6/9/08 1:48:07 PM

Two easiest things to drop the price on this would be to get a cheaper motherboard. What features does that the Deluxe have that you want over the normal Asus P5Q?

You've only got a single card set-up so you won't need the extra x16 slot and if you want that extra network plug you could just buy a gigabit add in card for $15 instead. I'd go for the Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3L for $139 or if you have a preference for Asus the normal P5Q for $180.

The Velociprator is also overkill for this system. I'm sure any performance increase you'd get in gaming would be bottlenecked by something else. A WD or Samsung 640GB drive would work here - best performing larger drive because there's only two dense platters and about 1/3 of the price.

If you dropped down to a 27" screen instead there's another $500 minimum saved.

Overall though, you could save a huge amount of money by switching to a cheaper computer store. If you have an MSY or Umart locally you could probably knock about 30% off that system's price, or use www.staticice.com.au to find the best prices.

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6/9/08 4:17:27 PM
i just chose that mobo just incase i decided to run another 4870x2 crossfire somewhere in the future. What would be a better mobo for that kind of setup?

What would be a good 27" screen that would suit?

and also case wise would the antec 1200 be a wise choice?



6/9/08 4:26:40 PM

Probably an Gigabyte X48-DS4 for Crossfire.

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6/9/08 5:57:50 PM
Antec Case 1200 is beautiful...if you like larger cases :)
window gives some good look at your new rig's interior.
I am buying one next week for my new build, I have an antec 900 currently and it is one of the best cases I have had to date!!!
nice and quiet too but cannot vouch for the 1200 as yet, would assume it is also quality and quiet fans.

If I had the cash I would buy a Samsung 27" monitor...happy with the 24" Samsung ( 0 dead pixel and 3 yr on site warranty )currently so no need but hey if I win lotto :) lol a 30" Samsung would be the go.

Good luck sounds like a good kit you are putting together there ;-)


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6/9/08 6:05:37 PM

+1 to pretty much everythign said so far.

The Corsair 750W PSU is excellent and will be plenty for a 4870x2. Since a 4870x2 can (apparently) chew almost 450W under maximum load, if you plan on 2, then you might want to go past 1000W, all the way to a 1200W PSU.

But you really need to ask yourself the question: Will you *really* ever add a second 4870x2? Be honest with yourself. I am going to guess no.

The PSU isn't hte only thing that'd be dependent on if you plan on gettign a second 4870x2 later on. All th P45 chipset motherboards only have a single full-speed 16x slot. If you want to be able to use 2 16x PCI-e video cards at full-speed, then you'll need an X38 or X48 based motherboard. I'd recommend the GA-X48-DS4

For P45 boards, I'd recommend the GA-EP45-DS3 or the Asus P5Q. I wouldn't bother with the Deluxe/pro/extreme/super-leet models. They're full of lovely extra features that almost no one ever actually uses.

It's worth noting that out of P45 and X48, P45 is the superior overclocker.

Also, 4GB of DDR2-800 shouldn't cost you anymore than $90. Don't bother with fancy low latency stuff, or go out of your way to get Corsair or another brand. Anything will do just fine, and RAM *really* isn't where you should be putting extra dollars in if you want more performance.

This machine is going to get warm inside. I'd recommend a Noctua NH-U12P CPU cooler. They work well and run quiet.

+1 for getting a Pioneer DVR-216BK DVD burner, theyr'e excellent and are considered the best on offer by most everyone around here.

+1 for ditching the velociraptor and just getting a WD 640GB SATA drive.

+1 for looking around for cheaper prices, too. :) What locatio nare you in?

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6/9/08 7:56:17 PM
yeh im really pleased at how its looking atm thanks to all the help

im living in vic a bit south of melbourne


6/9/08 10:56:43 PM
go to www.staticice.com.au, you can price check your stuffs there


7/9/08 1:12:44 AM

I recommend scorptech, i always shop there and am very pleased with their service.

+ 1 to the E8600 if your overclocking.
+ 1 to a P45-DS3L You wont need a second 4870x2 that is insane. lol. but cool.
I'd recommend getting an HX620 Powersupply as i;ve been told by people in this forums that it could run everything in my sig + a 4870x2 no problems.
+ 1 to just getting 4GB of DDR2 Generic 800MHZ Memory, I went from Generic 667MHZ to my ram now and didnt really notice much of a difference in performance.

What about the G7 mouse? I hear for a wireless mouse it is pretty good.

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4GB OCZ Extreme DDR2 1200Mhz
2x 20x SATA LG DVD Burner
2x SATA Samsung 500GB HDD
Cooler Master CM690 ATX
Corsair HX620W ATX PSU

7/9/08 11:55:34 AM
ok :)thanks to everyone's great help ive got this so far:

Graphics - Sapphire HD4870x2 - $649
CPU - Intel Core 2 Duo E8600 - $330
Mobo - Gigabyte GA-X48-DS4 Intel Mainboard - $238
Ram - TRANSCEND 4GB KIT 800MHz(PC2-6400) DDR2 - $90
HDD - WD SATA 640GB - $90
Optical Drive - Pioneer DVR-216 - $34
Case - CoolerMaster Cosmos 1000 - $266
PSU - Corsair CMPSU-750TX 750W - $210
Monitor - Samsung 275T - $935
Keyboard - Logitech G15 Keyboard - $87
Mouse - Logitech G7 - $89
OS - Vista Ultimate 64bit w/sp1 - $239
Cooling - Noctua NH-U12P - $80

Total: $3337

now i was just wondering on people's opinions on a case
i personally like the coolermaster cosmos for its looks and bit of room to move, but is there a better case out there for that price range?


7/9/08 12:46:36 PM

um....you chose the X48 mobo because presumably you may just upgrade to 2x 4870X2's - you may have problems with that PSU running the two - your original choice would be better if you do go for two of these cards in the future.
have you looked at LianLi cases? at least have a look if you want a big aluminium case, I prefer them, with their removeable mobo trays, and build quality etc.
I bought a ViewSonic 28" (27.5" viewable) for $625 recently - I'm very happy with it.

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7/9/08 2:25:10 PM

I just built one of these babies, looks awesome when it starts up.


This thing will take 2 4870X2's, 5 3.5" HDD's, 6 5.25" bay devices. and make your motherboard look small. The main thing I love about this case is, all your components have room to be breath... and the whole thing is so quiet even with 3 230mm fans.

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7/9/08 4:16:11 PM
ok im finally all done with the parts
now i have to wait on the availability of them and im done :) cant wait!

thanks for the extremely useful help everyone


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