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Discuss: Don't buy a PS3
superfireydave 
18/8/08 9:54:36 PM
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Quote by Nich...
Why tell him to go and buy a PS3 from overseas that won't work with his current movie library?


You're the first person to mention DVD libraries in this thread (bar my first post which wasn't a whinge) so I have no way of knowing if Fuzz is as anal retentive about his DVD library as you apparently are.

And in all honesty, you'd probably get a better picture out of a high quality stand alone DVD player.

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The Fuzz damn you! 
18/8/08 10:08:11 PM
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Quote by superfireydave
Quote by The Fuzz damn you!
And yes, btw, I would pay more for it.


So quit whining and get a US 80GB PS3 already.


So I can play all my PAL PS2 games PAL DVDs PAL-equivalent regioned Bluray discs err... what, exactly?

Quote by superfireydave Perhaps the reason we don't have it on AU models is because they just CBF doing it for PAL releases?

They already did it for PAL releases, with software BC in the 60GB model.

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xfu 
18/8/08 10:21:55 PM
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I think you guys are still confused about what's happened...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but here's the situation:

Both PAL and NTSC regions currently have a cut down 40 gig SKU available - no BC, much cheaper price, etc. Only NTSC regions had the 80 gig full featured SKU, but it's at the full high price and is much worse value in my opinion.

After this change - NTSC STILL has the full 80 gig SKU at full price, PAL STILL does not have it AT ALL. So...nothing has changed.

the ONLY thing that's changed anywhere is that all cut down 40 gig SKUs have double sized hard drives now, without the price changing. That's it. Hard drive size. Nothing else has been re arranged.

You can now choose between two different NTSC 80 gig PS3s, one cut down and one not. They are still not the same price, with the full 80 gig option being very expensive. PAL regions weren't suddenly fucked over by Sony just now - it's the same lack of availability of that 80 gig SKU we've always had, but if it WAS available here it would be more expensive even than our 60 gig SKU so fuck that anyway.

So many people in this thread keep thinking we've been offered worse or different value than America but not a single thing has changed. All they did was double hard drive sizes everywhere.

edit: this should help:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3#Retail_configurations


Edited by xfu: 18/8/2008 10:24:41 PM

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The Fuzz damn you! 
18/8/08 10:29:05 PM
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Quote by xfu
I think you guys are still confused about what's happened...


Nope, everyone understands exactly what the situation is. We've been getting reamed compared to the US ever since Sony discontinued the 60GB model, and just when Sony had an opportunity to rectify the inequality that chose instead to continue reaming us, but this time shoving an 80GB HDD up our arses and asking us to smile about it.

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Lord-Ezekiel 
18/8/08 10:59:31 PM
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Quote by The Fuzz damn you!
Quote by xfu
I think you guys are still confused about what's happened...


Nope, everyone understands exactly what the situation is. We've been getting reamed compared to the US ever since Sony discontinued the 60GB model, and just when Sony had an opportunity to rectify the inequality they chose instead to continue reaming us, but this time shoving an 80GB HDD up our arses and asking us to smile about it.



EXACTLY.

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xfu 
18/8/08 11:14:30 PM
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Ok...so you're pissed BC bit the dust altogether.

How soon are you expecting price drops anyway? You could have gotten yourself a 60 gig (probably still can) but didn't, because it's too much damn money. It will take years anyway for it to drop by any respectable amount.

But I get ya now. Sorry for misreading.

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cmdhit 
19/8/08 12:41:01 AM
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Ummm.....if its not already posted:
the PS3 promo gave a Dual Shock(DS)3 controller with the free PS3. Only those who registered for the PS3 late August got it though (so early applicants got the standard controller)

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heydude 
19/8/08 10:54:38 PM
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For that money you could put together an ok pc tower, and have lots of backwards game compatibility,,,,,hehehe

okies, jokes :)

Nah, still too overpriced I think, will wait till after december for the bigger price drops.

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muffie 
20/8/08 7:47:00 AM
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For what I want out of it, it's still overpriced. Perhaps later in the year it will be more reasonable, otherwise I might grab a cheapie blueray player.

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Trekker 
20/8/08 7:55:16 AM
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what is the point of a large hard drive? can you copy your games to it? if not whats the point of 40 gig more.

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index680i 
20/8/08 9:14:11 AM
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Quote by Lord-Ezekiel
Other good reasons to play PS2 games on the PS3 is the nice wireless controllers, and it should also *theoretically* upscale the quality of the ps1 & ps2 visuals...though the effectiveness of said upscaling is said to be a little iffy from what I've read.

Also, why is people's defense of Sony's ridiculous decision to not include PS2 Backwards Compatibility:
"Oh it's OK - YOU CAN JUST BUY AN ENTIRE OTHER CONSOLE TO PLAY PS2 GAMES ON INSTEAD"

WHAT?
Have you all gone INSANE!? >_<


Edited by Lord-Ezekiel: 18/8/2008 5:18:39 PM



Backwards compatibility is nice and would be nice for some people out there but the way I see it, is that. If your going to buy a new console. PS3/ Xbox360, don't you think that you would be interested in playing the new games for this generation instead of playing the old ones? I'd rather play new games then then old ones.

It is a pain if there is something you do like and you can't get it but that's just the way it is and. I would not mind having a PS2 Slim sitting on the table with the new swivel Stand sitting next to my PS3 and 360, hence I got the 60GB so there is no need for me to buy a PS2.

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Lord-Ezekiel 
20/8/08 9:19:18 AM
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Quote by Trekker
what is the point of a large hard drive? can you copy your games to it? if not whats the point of 40 gig more.



If you have the *pleasure* of using a PS3, many games FORCE you to install them on the Hard Drive.

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superfireydave 
20/8/08 9:43:47 AM
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Quote by Lord-Ezekiel
Quote by Trekker
what is the point of a large hard drive? can you copy your games to it? if not whats the point of 40 gig more.



If you have the *pleasure* of using a PS3, many games FORCE you to install them on the Hard Drive.



Basically yes. Games force you to install it. Because it's a standard feature on every PS3 developers are allowed to force a game to install (as opposed to the 360 where developers have to bitch and whine for ages to be able to do so). Sometimes this is due to the game not being able to load textures etc quickly enough via the 1x BRD. Othertimes, this is just because they can. Thankfully, some games like MGS4 (which uses a double sided BRD -_-) have incrememental loads, so you don't spend 1 hour installing one massive fuckoff program onto your PS3.

In addition to games, you can obviously put media, and downloadable content on there.

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2SHY 
20/8/08 9:56:11 AM
Learner
Well at least be thankful they gave you the option of installing your own HDD and your own OS as well. So they aren't completely mean.

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xfu 
20/8/08 11:18:37 AM
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I find it funny that so many people at beat on the PS3 for forced installs but have now turned around said that installs coming to the 360 is such a great feature.

Wasn't directed at you Ezekiel...more a general observation.

Of all the flaws I could point out about different consoles and the gripes I could bitch about with PS3, install times are so far down the list for me. I just don't get what the problem is.

The most important thing is fast loading during gameplay and that's where HD content excels. That's why I'm not at all surprised to see 360 owners happy to have it coming, but it's brought about a bit of inconsistency in what people say.

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Lord-Ezekiel 
20/8/08 11:39:11 AM
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Quote by xfu
I find it funny that so many people at beat on the PS3 for forced installs but have now turned around said that installs coming to the 360 is such a great feature.

Wasn't directed at you Ezekiel...more a general observation.

Of all the flaws I could point out about different consoles and the gripes I could bitch about with PS3, install times are so far down the list for me. I just don't get what the problem is.

The most important thing is fast loading during gameplay and that's where HD content excels. That's why I'm not at all surprised to see 360 owners happy to have it coming, but it's brought about a bit of inconsistency in what people say.



FORCED installs? [PS3] Horrible :(

OPTIONAL installs? [360] Excellent :)

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xfu 
20/8/08 12:01:04 PM
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Quote by Lord-Ezekiel
FORCED installs? [PS3] Horrible :(

OPTIONAL installs? [360] Excellent :)



Dude...I do see what you're saying, but I have a problem with your logic as well.

Choice is excellent, no doubt. But why would you be SO excited about being able to install while slamming a game where you have to?

Either you want to install games, or you don't want to. If you are one of those 360 owners that WANTS to install games for better load times, what the hell difference does it make whether PS3 enforces it or not? You want to do it anyway.

I get the choice factor, but many people have a double standard now and it's making the forced install issue look like petty nitpicking.

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Lord-Ezekiel 
20/8/08 12:23:15 PM
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Quote by xfu
Quote by Lord-Ezekiel
FORCED installs? [PS3] Horrible :(

OPTIONAL installs? [360] Excellent :)



Dude...I do see what you're saying, but I have a problem with your logic as well.

Choice is excellent, no doubt. But why would you be SO excited about being able to install while slamming a game where you have to?

Either you want to install games, or you don't want to. If you are one of those 360 owners that WANTS to install games for better load times, what the hell difference does it make whether PS3 enforces it or not? You want to do it anyway.

I get the choice factor, but many people have a double standard now and it's making the forced install issue look like petty nitpicking.


I'm not trying to make this a PS3 vs 360 thing - it just so happens that PS3 is forcing you, and 360 is not...

No matter what console I'm using, i don't EVER want to be forced to install a game.

That being said, if the OPTION is there, and at some point, for a particular game i feel i may benefit from installing it, then yes i will.

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The Fuzz damn you! 
20/8/08 12:34:33 PM
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Quote by Lord-Ezekiel
No matter what console I'm using, i don't EVER want to be forced to install a game.


Weird. Why?

And I assume you never play PC games...?

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muffie 
20/8/08 12:38:52 PM
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And I assume you never played console games...?

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