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Norton Internet Security 2009 (including anti-virus) is seriously good
Virtuoso 
4/9/08 11:34:24 PM
SuperHero
Resident alien


Like many of us, I'd written off Norton Internet Security and Anti-Virus as a clock-cycle-hungry resource hog which sucked the life out of my PC.

However, I've been on the Beta program for NIS 2009... and it's been a real eye-opener.

They've apparently rewritten the core engines, and the interface. And the result is very nice, fast, clever and most importantly, very light on system resources.

It also has some clever new features, like 'pulse updates', which push tiny updates for particularly important and virulent virii. And you can choose between heuristic virus/firewall protection, which alerts you to the signs of malware activity, or the usual full application permission approach.

Anyway: just thought I'd pass this on. And if you want to check out the Beta for yourself, you can download it here:
http://www.symantec.com/norton-beta/





Note: just in case it needs to be stated, I have no personal connection or vested interest in Norton products. I'm just passing this on because I think some Atomicans will be interested.

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Waltish 
4/9/08 11:46:52 PM
Hero
Titan


Are they still planting difficult to remove rootkits in systems.

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Virtuoso 
5/9/08 12:30:55 AM
SuperHero
Resident alien


I dunno. How would I find out?

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SceptreCore 
5/9/08 12:37:27 AM
Guru

Yeah a beta... just wait till they make the whole package... it will feel like running Vista on a PIII PC.

Personally I hate Norton, and any developer who has to create a removal tool because it doesn't remove itself when you uninstall it... doesn't say much for it.

Then again, you find will that systems running norton will be in the category of the minimally infected. Personally I prefer AVG.


Edited by SceptreCore: 5/9/2008 12:37:59 AM

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Virtuoso 
5/9/08 12:54:17 AM
SuperHero
Resident alien


I posted this thread because the new version is not like the old versions.

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Waltish 
5/9/08 12:57:32 AM
Hero
Titan


Quote by Virtuoso
I dunno. How would I find out?



http://www.tech-recipes.com/windows_tips1037.html

http://www.sophos.com/products/free-tools/sophos-anti-rootkit.html

Had a quick look around seems that Norton Internet Security 2009 has some kind of antirootkit feature but if it would detect its own rootkits if there were any, I don't know.



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eckythump 
5/9/08 1:03:20 AM
Champion

I installed an older version of this on my parents computer a few years back, and yeah, it was pretty fucking horrid back then.

My biggest gripe with it was that it didn't adhere to standard windows colour schemes.

My eyesight makes it near impossible for me to read dark text on bright backgrounds, so I use a high contrast scheme with a black background and white/yellow/etc bright foreground/text colours.

NIS totally ignored this and all the config and UI panels had their own hardcoded colour scheme that I just couldn't deal with.

Have the cunts fixed that?

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osama_bin_athlon 
5/9/08 6:04:22 AM
Hero
Immortal


it still costs $$$$'s, doesn't it?

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Enemy 
5/9/08 9:31:23 AM
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Interesting. Thanks for the info. :)

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Jeruselem 
5/9/08 11:59:37 AM
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At least new PC systems with this new version won't behave like single core P3s when they have a quad-cores, when it's preloaded.

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bnew 
5/9/08 2:49:19 PM
Guru

Well, if they manage to reduce the amount of resources it hogs and the damage can do to some setups I might be able to start suggesting it to people again.

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1shot1kill 
5/9/08 5:12:48 PM
SuperHero
Colossus


Quote by osama_bin_athlon
it still costs $$$$'s, doesn't it?



I'm still using 2003.

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TheSecret 
5/9/08 6:16:33 PM
Overlord
The resource usage was not the only problem, it was always quite crap at actually detecting and stopping malware.

What persuaded you to try the beta?

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Virtuoso 
5/9/08 11:02:42 PM
SuperHero
Resident alien


My experience with Norton over 10 years has been that it had been 99.5% reliable in detecting malware. I only had one infection in 10 years, and that was quite some time ago.

I switched from it two years ago because of the system overhead. But as a product, I always found it extremely reliable.

A month ago I trialled Windows Live OneCare. That landed me with 8 trojans in one week of usage... and 4 of them it couldn't tell me anything about, and 3 of them it couldn't clean up.

Epic fail.

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spielentwickler 
9/9/08 5:22:02 PM
Guru

Well, if they have finally taken some of the reviews online on board all the power to them.

Goes to show having an opinion isn't always all bad.

I guess if it offers an internet security platform better than what I can get for free, I might consider it. I've rarely had a need for a firewall any more than Windows Firewall. My linux clients don't even run one because I'm behind NAT anyway, and only forward ports as needed, and have no DMZ set up. Neither is UPNP.

So even if malware got onto one of the computers on my network, it couldn't open that computer up to the internet. Well, not unless it asked me really nicely first :P

It'll be a different story when I get my block of public IPs set up (which is one of the reasons I put up with TPG), but then there will be a NAT'd private network for most of the house still anyway. Only my webserver and VOIP device will be public. And perhaps my personal desktop computer. The webserver is running linux, and will only have public ports on 22 and 80, so a very basic iptables chain will manage it.

The desktop on the other hand, while in Windows, might get some beefier firewall than the XP default, depending on what I end up running. Most network services will be disabled on the public interface anyway. As it would likely sit between my public and private networks though, it might be worth the investment.


Edited by spielentwickler: 9/9/2008 05:22:32 PM

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Fat_Bodybuilder 
9/9/08 8:34:55 PM
Titan

Quote by 1shot1kill
Quote by osama_bin_athlon
it still costs $$$$'s, doesn't it?



I'm still using 2003.



You use Norton's 2003?


Aaaaahahahahhaha...

*tear*

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F117_Nighthawk 
9/9/08 8:42:12 PM
Guru

I tried to ignore all the criticism of Norton earlier this year with the Norton bashing (like Vista) and decided to trial Norton Internet Security 2008 for a month.

So what happened in that month?
I got 3 trojan horses which COULDNT be removed and it slowed the shit down out of my PC. And I think it eventually lead to me having to reinstall the OS down the track.

The only solution was to install the best internet security program, my friend called "Kaspersky"

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Squidy 
9/9/08 11:45:43 PM
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Colossus


I used to love Norton 2003, I found it much faster and definitely more accurate than AVG and shite like that. However 2004 was bloated and it all went downhill from there.

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Virtuoso 
10/9/08 12:55:30 AM
SuperHero
Resident alien


The Beta program stopped today and the product is now commercially available.

I recommend people try it. I think it's the first of a 'next gen' of malware protection, and sets a standard others will have to live up to.

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superfireydave 
10/9/08 2:18:54 AM
Titan

Quote by F117_Nighthawk
So what happened in that month?
I got 3 trojan horses which COULDNT be removed and it slowed the shit down out of my PC. And I think it eventually lead to me having to reinstall the OS down the track.


Learn to download properly =|
I've had ONE virus in the past 2 years.
When I installed it (because that's pretty much the only way it'll happen) I even thought "this is probably a virus, you're a dickhead" and LO AND BEHOLD it was a virus.

3 trojans in a month? That's fucking ridiculous.


Edited by superfireydave: 10/9/2008 02:19:04 AM

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