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But SHOULD we be ditching Firefox for Chrome...?
B82R3S 
3/9/08 10:53:51 PM
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From http://www.securecomputing.net.au/News/121747,googles-chrome-comes-with-security-focus.aspx

Google's new Chrome web browser, released in beta for Windows machines on Tuesday, includes a number of security and privacy elements that the company believes will make for a safer browsing experience.

The most useful security feature appears to be "sandboxed" tabs, by which the browsers are "subdivided into multiple applications," each running their own process, Darin Fisher, a tech lead on the Chrome project, said Tuesday during a press webcast.

From a performance standpoint, that means if one tab is running slow, other applications will not be impacted.

From a security perspective, users are protected from self-installing malware, such as browser-based exploits, that jump across programs and affect the rest of the machine. All victims would need to do is close the infected tab to extinguish the malware threat.

"Normally, [an attacker would] just have to find a bug on the rendering engine, but now [he] also has to find a way out of the sandbox," Fisher said.

John Pescatore, vice president and distinguished analyst at Gartner, said it remains to be seen how effective the capability will be.

"The sandbox can be a really good thing if the sandboxes have really high walls between each other," he told SCMagazineUS.com on Tuesday. "But depending on the quality of the code, you don't know if they really do or don't."

The browser also will leverage Google's blacklist to block malware-foisting and phishing websites, similar to Firefox 3 and Internet Explorer 7 (IE7).

Privacy also will be beefed up with the inclusion of the "incognito" window, which users can launch to conduct private browsing. Much like Microsoft's planned InPrivate Browsing for IE8, when users close the "incognito" window on Chrome, search history and cookies are removed automatically.

"Any type of browsing you do on this window is not stored on your computer," Brian Rakowski, group product manager, said during the webcast.

Pescatore claimed that though the launch of Chrome appears to be an attempt to steal market share from Microsoft, businesses likely will be slow to adopt.

The main reason for hesitation is because many corporations' intranets are compatible with only IE, he explained, not browsers such as Firefox or Chrome.

Consumers, however, may be more willing to try Chrome -- which contains an engine known as V8 to speed up JavaScript performance -- because they trust Google and are familiar with its email, search and toolbar offerings.

"Google does a lot of, 'Let's throw spaghetti against the wall and see what sticks,' but when you look around, a lot of their stuff does stick," Pescatore said.

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TheSecret 
3/9/08 10:57:15 PM
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My overall feeling is that it is too kiosky..., I don't think I like it at all, unless I have to get used to it....meh, FF3 for me.

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B82R3S 
3/9/08 11:12:01 PM
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one design element i dont like is the low profile top bar (distance between the top of the tabs and the top of the window). While it surves its purpose just feels very wierd.

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alai 
3/9/08 11:50:05 PM
Guru

If comparing out of the box experience:

Opera, Chrome, Firefox

But if we add extension:

Firefox> Opera or Chrome

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SceptreCore 
4/9/08 12:21:22 AM
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I like how you can drag tabs to become their own windows... as well as sort them.

I don't think that FF is threatened at all by this, just more challenged now more then before on making the latest innovations in web browsing

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osama_bin_athlon 
4/9/08 12:57:05 AM
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Quote by TheSecret
My overall feeling is that it is too kiosky..., I don't think I like it at all, unless I have to get used to it....meh, FF3 for me.



too 'kiosky'??
wtf!?

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TheSecret 
4/9/08 3:02:35 AM
Overlord
Quote by osama_bin_athlon
Quote by TheSecret
My overall feeling is that it is too kiosky..., I don't think I like it at all, unless I have to get used to it....meh, FF3 for me.



too 'kiosky'??
wtf!?



OK, not a real word, but it feels like using an internet kisok...you know those machines that are $2 for 10 minutes and locked away, with just a trackball and on screen keyboard to use?


Edited by TheSecret: 4/9/2008 3:02:58 AM

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Waltish 
4/9/08 5:17:15 AM
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I think that the hub effect is by design, It is a kiosk of sorts, Its not just a browser. {:)




Edited by Waltish: 4/9/2008 5:18:13 AM

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das_book 
4/9/08 9:16:51 AM
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I've moved over to Chrome.

I don't use extensions in FireFox, and Opera has trouble rendering some pages.
I've been a fan of Safari on Windows, but its just too slow and tacky looking.

Chrome is fast (both start-up and use), and simple. Its all that I need.

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Jeruselem 
4/9/08 9:21:24 AM
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Quote by das_book
I've moved over to Chrome.

I don't use extensions in FireFox, and Opera has trouble rendering some pages.
I've been a fan of Safari on Windows, but its just too slow and tacky looking.

Chrome is fast (both start-up and use), and simple. Its all that I need.



Oddly, the underlying engine of Chrome is actually from Safari 3.1. You are using Safari of sorts.


Edited by Jeruselem: 4/9/2008 09:21:40 AM

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cacophony 
4/9/08 10:51:19 AM
Serf

it runs alot quicker from what i have noticed.

i like it, its simple, firefox 3 seemed cluttered, it looks like its part of my OS, and what i like is the kiosk, alot of people use the google tools. and tbh nobody has a million firefox extensions installed, so the argument about extensions isnt really strong.

i had 2 installed. and seeming that chrome is open source aswell, you can expect some sort of similar extensions installed.

im using it for kiosk, and its a nice change.

i used to be a web designer, i havent really tested its capability yet xD but everything runs fine on it so far.

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osama_bin_athlon 
4/9/08 11:14:24 AM
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you don't seem to be able to make the print in web pages bigger with Chrome - only your own font when posting etc.
my eyes are hurting, and I woke up with a splitting headache this morning.
I'm back with Ff

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....it's called a 'snuke'.

Sneddo 
4/9/08 11:29:31 AM
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Quote by osama_bin_athlon
you don't seem to be able to make the print in web pages bigger with Chrome - only your own font when posting etc.
my eyes are hurting, and I woke up with a splitting headache this morning.
I'm back with Ff

Well you can, but it is pretty limited. Either ctrl-scroll as normal, or go into the font settings in options. That will let you change the font for the various font types (serif, sans-serif, fixed-width)

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osama_bin_athlon 
4/9/08 11:52:54 AM
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Quote by Sneddo
Quote by osama_bin_athlon
you don't seem to be able to make the print in web pages bigger with Chrome - only your own font when posting etc.
my eyes are hurting, and I woke up with a splitting headache this morning.
I'm back with Ff

Well you can, but it is pretty limited. Either ctrl-scroll as normal, or go into the font settings in options. That will let you change the font for the various font types (serif, sans-serif, fixed-width)



er, already tried that - it seemed to only affect the size of the fonts in the post box, not on web pages - I'm using a 28" monitor, with 1920x1200 res. - I whacked the size up on all 3x options, and it makes no difference

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....it's called a 'snuke'.

SceptreCore 
4/9/08 4:40:15 PM
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Quote by das_book
I've moved over to Chrome.

I don't use extensions in FireFox, and Opera has trouble rendering some pages.
I've been a fan of Safari on Windows, but its just too slow and tacky looking.

Chrome is fast (both start-up and use), and simple. Its all that I need.


Me Too!

/high fives

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das_book 
4/9/08 4:41:37 PM
Overlord

Quote by Jeruselem
Quote by das_book
I've moved over to Chrome.

I don't use extensions in FireFox, and Opera has trouble rendering some pages.
I've been a fan of Safari on Windows, but its just too slow and tacky looking.

Chrome is fast (both start-up and use), and simple. Its all that I need.



Oddly, the underlying engine of Chrome is actually from Safari 3.1. You are using Safari of sorts.


Edited by Jeruselem: 4/9/2008 09:21:40 AM



I know that, and is probably why I love it so much.

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Comrade 
4/9/08 7:12:50 PM
Serf

I think it's still a little buggy, of course nothing serious, but the little things gets really annoying.
Every time I open Chrome my HDD gets really busy for awhile, I don't know why.

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SceptreCore 
4/9/08 7:18:41 PM
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Quote by Comrade
I think it's still a little buggy, of course nothing serious, but the little things gets really annoying.
Every time I open Chrome my HDD gets really busy for awhile, I don't know why.


Maybe it's a dodgy drive... your system is under a lot of load.

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Jeruselem 
5/9/08 1:05:14 PM
Guru

I've got IE8 B2, FF 3.01 and Chrome beta on the same PC now ...

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jonno4130 
5/9/08 6:21:10 PM
Initiate
i cant stand firefox 3, and given they will no longer be supporting version 2 from the end of this year, i may have to take a look. mind you, i was content with internet explorer. only moved to firefox because it loads up quicker than IE. i hate i hate i hate loading times.

that, and my gf doesnt know what firefox is. heres to browsing porn without getting caught (most of the time.)

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