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preparing pc's to sell them
RichOs 
26/8/08 1:28:43 PM
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Hi All,

The company I work for has 9 pc's that it no longer wants and intends selling off.
They have asked me to 'prepare' them for sale.
All the docs have been copied onto the server.
I now want to 'wipe' them so data is not recoverable and remove all software except he OS.
Any suggestions as to the best way to go about it.
ie any suggestions as to wiping software ( i tried d-ban but most dont have floppies and it didnt work from a usb drive)
Cheers
RichOs

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smadge1 
26/8/08 2:33:42 PM
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did they come with OEM Windows or a Restore CD? that would be the easiest way to reset them.

otherwise, just wipe them and include the OS disks with the PC when you sell them.

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tantryl 
26/8/08 2:48:32 PM
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As above.

Wipe them. If you want secure wiping use one of the many tools available on http://www.ultimatebootcd.com

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Master_Scythe 
26/8/08 3:05:31 PM
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Use the Ultimate Boot CD and chose a 'DISK WIPE TOOL'

Considering these are work machines, whatever the programs recommend
eg: 2 passes recommended. Do one more.
So in this case, 3 passes.

Then install the OS again or run the recovery CD's.

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wilsontc 
26/8/08 5:01:03 PM
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If you have a Linux PC or LiveCD, you could load as many of the hdds into the PC as possible and then write zero's to the drives in parallel.

So for example

RichOs@linuxbox:~# dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdx

Where sdx is the hdd. Just open up a shell for each one, or write a little script to do it in the background.

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Master_Scythe 
26/8/08 5:41:51 PM
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you just like showing off linux knowledge :P

caus if he doesnt know how to wipe a HDD, its unlikely hes a linux nut :P hehe

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wilsontc 
26/8/08 7:17:54 PM
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Quote by Master_Scythe
you just like showing off linux knowledge :P



I prefer to just pull out the hard drives and do them all at once. It's not really showing off, it's just working smarter.



Edited by wilsontc: 26/8/2008 7:18:42 PM

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douganator 
26/8/08 9:59:42 PM
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Quote by wilsontc
Quote by Master_Scythe
you just like showing off linux knowledge :P



I prefer to just pull out the hard drives and do them all at once. It's not really showing off, it's just working smarter.



Edited by wilsontc: 26/8/2008 7:18:42 PM



thats kinda more work,

easier to just stick a disk in and press enter.
saves taking the disk out putting it into another machine, and then putting it back into the old one again.

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Electra 
27/8/08 12:33:35 AM
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Quote by wilsontc
Quote by Master_Scythe
you just like showing off linux knowledge :P



I prefer to just pull out the hard drives and do them all at once. It's not really showing off, it's just working smarter.



Edited by wilsontc: 26/8/2008 7:18:42 PM


How do you do that?

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kikz 
27/8/08 10:00:20 AM
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Strong mangment FTW followed by fresh install of Windows (and possibly another magnet) :p

Seriously. Get the windows disk and select format (not the quick option). That'll perform a low level format (or in other words, write 0's to the entire drive). Then install OS.

Be warned. Performing that on a RAID 0 drive with 2TB capacity will annoy the living shit out of you as you wait day for it to complete. :(

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smadge1 
27/8/08 10:13:20 AM
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n00b

High-Level Formatting doesn't destroy data, a quick format only clears the File Table and Boot Sector. All the data is still there, but all the links to the bits have been removed. A full format actually check the disk for errors as well. it doesn't write zeroes to the disk.

A low-level format does destroy data, as does performing a zero-fill.

Saying that, FORMAT /U does overwrite every byte, or unconditional format.


Edited by smadge1: 27/8/2008 10:18:22 AM

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Master_Scythe 
27/8/08 11:31:52 AM
Titan

Still easiest to put the Ultimate Boot CD in and restart, lol.

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Jeruselem 
27/8/08 11:38:49 AM
Guru

According to the folks who make the SpinRite software (which dates from the DOS days)!

From http://www.grc.com/sr/faq.htm

Can SpinRite low-level format my IDE, EIDE, or SCSI drive?

No software of any sort can truly low-level format today's modern drives. The ability to low-level format hard drives was lost back in the early 1990's when disc surfaces began incorporating factory written "embedded servo data". If you have a very old drive that can truly be low-level reformatted, SpinRite v5.0 will do that for you (which all v6.0 owners are welcome to download and run anytime). But this is only possible on very old non-servo based MFM and RLL drives with capacities up to a few hundred megabytes.

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Master_Scythe 
27/8/08 11:42:19 AM
Titan

Which is why these days, they tend to work by filling and reasing the disk everal times over as it would a normal write of a giant file.

While this doesnt 'destroy' the old data AS SUCH, the fatc its ben written over 8 times or some shit, makes it VERY HARD to recover ANYTHING.

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RichOs 
27/8/08 1:03:21 PM
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Quote by Master_Scythe
you just like showing off linux knowledge :P

caus if he doesnt know how to wipe a HDD, its unlikely hes a linux nut :P hehe



Thanks for the tips all (especially Mater Cythe)

I was able to wipe a disc...just wasnt sure about a complete wipe of the pc ready to sell (wanted to be sure as they are work pc's) the complete boot cd looks to be a winner. Ive got the trainie sitting in a side office wiping them now.

hmmmm isnt linux that thing the troll from the IT department wafles on about when ever he comes out of his cave to attempt comunication with the humans :P

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Master_Scythe 
27/8/08 1:29:48 PM
Titan

not these days, linux, especially ubuntu is more than a suitable OS, but yeah, as i said, if you're asking, I doubt you're sitting there in BASH shell typing lines of code lol.

good luck hope all goes well.

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B82R3S 
27/8/08 6:31:51 PM
Titan

run a live cd and zero out the disks.

How critical is the data.If parts of the data being stolen is worldbreaking you can use a fireaxe lol

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