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Memory usage: FF v IE
Milano 
10/8/08 11:53:20 AM
Hero
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Spotted this in task manager recently...

FF: 128,000k with 5 or 6 add-ons, none of which are in use.
IE: 64,000k
(Identical pages open)

Just after comparisons from other people & why you think FF uses so much more memory?

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bowiee 
10/8/08 12:02:49 PM
Hero
Titan


This is the explanation I believe.

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Reducing_memory_usage_(Firefox)

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Milano 
10/8/08 12:45:48 PM
Hero
Immortal


Thanks bowiee. That link got me to check my add-ons. I noticed one of them wasn't updated, & once I downloaded the current version, memory usage dropped to ~60,000K. Cheers.

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Cpt. Lock 
10/8/08 12:47:10 PM
Banned

Firefox has always had a huge memory leak, people just don't complain because most people these days have at least 1gb of RAM

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Jeruselem 
10/8/08 1:49:03 PM
Guru

Since part of IE7 is in Windows, you don't see it's real memory usage.
I do find FF uses a little more RAM but it's not that bad apart from leaky add-ons.

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SceptreCore 
10/8/08 9:50:19 PM
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My IE is currently using: 75752k but that is with IEPro

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Waltish 
12/8/08 7:18:29 AM
Hero
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Quote by Cpt. Lock
Firefox has always had a huge memory leak, people just don't complain because most people these days have at least 1gb of RAM



Had.... FF3 has made big improvements.

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http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article4472654.ece

Cpt. Lock 
12/8/08 9:57:04 AM
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Yeah, but I can still get firefox to leak like a tap if I want to, tabbed browsing is supposedly one of firefox's strengths, open up a few tabs and load them up with picture heavy pages

It's still ridiculously easy to crash firefox or at least get it to a point where it leaks like a tap

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2SHY 
12/8/08 10:59:00 AM
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Internet Explorer as we know is built into the Operating System so i would think [correct me if i'm wrong] it is built into the kernel [explorer.exe] so it would show in its memory usage is not true.

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TheSecret 
12/8/08 11:10:50 AM
Primarch
Cpt.Lock,

In FF3? How?

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wilsontc 
13/8/08 11:59:06 AM
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It's only an issue if you're hitting swap.

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Master_Scythe 
13/8/08 12:29:41 PM
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problem is wil, if you look at the task manager and turn on VM size, you'll see firefox DOES use bloody swap. If i have my browser open for a week, with flash content and pic heavy pages (and yes this is FF3) it can be using 300mb of RAM, 500mb VM.

I have FF on one machine and opera on another. despite my awesome plugins on this machine (chatzilla especially) opera is looking more and more tempting.

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2SHY 
13/8/08 4:22:55 PM
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Quote by Master_Scythe
problem is wil, if you look at the task manager and turn on VM size, you'll see firefox DOES use bloody swap. If i have my browser open for a week, with flash content and pic heavy pages (and yes this is FF3) it can be using 300mb of RAM, 500mb VM.

I have FF on one machine and opera on another. despite my awesome plugins on this machine (chatzilla especially) opera is looking more and more tempting.



Could i have proof of this memory size comparison between opera and firefox?

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bowiee 
13/8/08 5:10:44 PM
Hero
Titan


Oh no not another person who demands proof, instead of excepting that this is Master_Scythe's personal experience, and you can take it or leave it, or experiment with FF3 yourself.

This is a forum and as such most comments here are based on personal experience, and proof is not needed because you can take these comments or leave them :)

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TheSecret 
13/8/08 6:52:27 PM
Primarch
Proof is all but required when asserting your 'personal opinion' as fact. Otherwise there is no accountability, and everybody can say what they like and hide behind the saftey of it being an 'personal opinion'.

Example: Opera randomly deleted files on my system, constantly used up all my memory, and activley tried to assert itself as the associated program for all file types. Their is no onus on me to provide proof, as it is just my personal opinion.

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bowiee 
13/8/08 6:58:00 PM
Hero
Titan


Quote by TheSecret
Proof is all but required when asserting your 'personal opinion' as fact. Otherwise there is no accountability, and everybody can say what they like and hide behind the saftey of it being an 'personal opinion'.

Example: Opera randomly deleted files on my system, constantly used up all my memory, and activley tried to assert itself as the associated program for all file types. Their is no onus on me to provide proof, as it is just my personal opinion.



EDIT: No more food for you.


Edited by bowiee: 13/8/2008 06:59:08 PM

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Master_Scythe 
13/8/08 8:08:13 PM
Titan

Quote by TheSecret
Example: Opera randomly deleted files on my system, constantly used up all my memory, and activley tried to assert itself as the associated program for all file types. Their is no onus on me to provide proof, as it is just my personal opinion.



to which i would say 'clearly a conflict somewhere on your system! i advise not using it anymore!'

and OK next time i get huge memory usage ill screencap it.

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Master_Scythe 
13/8/08 8:44:17 PM
Titan

If he really was in IT security I dont think he'd be arguing for firefox.

simply because, no matter how much 'better' it is, usually companies have standardisation. and in order to keep standards simple, they use provided software.

though We could just be acting mean. maybe he is.

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bowiee 
13/8/08 8:57:16 PM
Hero
Titan


You give him the benefit of the doubt, more than he is prepaired to give you. :p

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Master_Scythe 
13/8/08 9:10:52 PM
Titan

so right now firefox has been on for about 3 hours. on atomic, google (a lot), ebay (a bit) and has a few images open.

and atm its:

memory:125,620K
VM: 163,920K

for only one evening, i do call that a lot. I have 10 tabs open. none pic heavy. except the 3 which are only pics! and each pic is about 50KB.

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