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private surfing, how???
mike367 
9/8/08 2:39:19 PM
Serf
Hi all, I want to surf the net in private, I dont want my kids to know what my wife and I have been doing. Can I use a external HDD? Please explain how, I don't want any details left on the pc in history, favs and so on. My kids are young teens now, so know more then me on this subject. I have a 80gig HDD in a old pc I can use.
thanks for your help.

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Master_Scythe 
9/8/08 2:56:08 PM
Titan

all you need is a 'portable' web browser.

search 'Firefox Portable' its a web browser that needs no installation and is entirely self contained within one folder. so no history etc.

Keep in mind there is nothing stopping them installng one of the hundred near undetectable 'net nanny' type softwares and spyong on EVERYTHING you do.

and there is no way to fix that without making them 'guests' on the PC, and they wont like that.


another even more secure option, is to find an "Ubuntu Live CD" or "Damn Small Linux"

Both free, legal, and a quick google away. DSL is faster, Ubuntu is much more powerful.

Basically you boot off it and its a full Operating system in your CD rom drive. If you plug your USB HDD in there and have a google you'll find how to 'mount' that and even be able to save stuff.

Dont be put off by it being Linux, Live CD's really are made to be boot and Go. (assuming you have always on broadband over a network cable\ethernet). They're the same as windows as long as you dont wanna modify it.

It'll come with most things you'll need. Image editor, Open Office, Firefox, Opera (sometimes), a Messenger program (usually pidgin).

thats your most secure option.


Edited by Master_Scythe: 9/8/2008 2:56:54 PM

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Scourge of the Underworld 
9/8/08 3:38:53 PM
Disciple

As already said, use a Linux livecd, or install a portable copy of Firefox or Opera on a thumbdrive would be the best suggestions. Running from livecd, everything is kept in RAm, so all you need to do is restart the machine and all the history and settings are gone, none saved to the drive. Tho, I would recommend Puppy Linux over DSL, you can then even save your settings and stuff to the drive when finsihed, with the otion of encrypting it, so the kids and family can't access it, but you still have stuff kept that you like, such as bookmarks, history, etc.

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Master_Scythe 
9/8/08 3:47:18 PM
Titan

Quote by Scourge of the Underworld
Tho, I would recommend Puppy Linux over DSL



no-ho-ho-way.

Having used both extensively, a live distro, that mounts your HDD (ntfs usually, which we know linux is still young with) and a novice behind the scenes leads to trouble.

Also, puppy is bigger an you need more ram to fit it. (last thing you want is to actually run from the CD *shudder*)

you either go all out with ubuntu, or go minimalist and fucing fast with ram-loaded DSL.

Used both DSL and puppy extensively. never go back to puppy imo. also seems to support less hardware. only worked in about 30 of the 50 pc's i tried it in. DSL never failed me yet. (i lie... once on a laptop, but still)

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bowiee 
9/8/08 3:57:43 PM
Hero
Titan


As above is a good idea.

Or maybe get the kids their own computer and lock them out of yours. Dual core AMD systems are so cheap to build now and would do them for their school work and browsing needs.

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Scourge of the Underworld 
9/8/08 6:20:10 PM
Disciple

edit: stupid browser


Edited by Scourge of the Underworld: 9/8/2008 06:21:36 PM

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LordBug 
9/8/08 6:22:05 PM
Immortal

I vote for the portable browser option. Recently been using P-FF myself, quite like it. Your bookmarks and history go with you! :D

I'd recommend Opera for the browsing of pornographic sites though. I have a stronger preference for Firefox, but Opera is just ideal for when the urge comes on ;)

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Scourge of the Underworld 
9/8/08 6:25:33 PM
Disciple

Quote by Master_Scythe
Quote by Scourge of the Underworld
Tho, I would recommend Puppy Linux over DSL



no-ho-ho-way.

Having used both extensively, a live distro, that mounts your HDD (ntfs usually, which we know linux is still young with) and a novice behind the scenes leads to trouble.

Also, puppy is bigger an you need more ram to fit it. (last thing you want is to actually run from the CD *shudder*)

you either go all out with ubuntu, or go minimalist and fucing fast with ram-loaded DSL.

Used both DSL and puppy extensively. never go back to puppy imo. also seems to support less hardware. only worked in about 30 of the 50 pc's i tried it in. DSL never failed me yet. (i lie... once on a laptop, but still)



I don't know what you've been trying, but puppy needs fuckall ram to run in either. And unless the guy is trying to run a pc with only 32meg of ram, he'll be fine. I run it on a 256MB laptop with no probs, and I've run it on less. Puppy fully loads into ram with only 256, and running from the cd for something as simple as web-browsing is not a big deal, it's only the browser he seems to want, and he can play his tunes as well if he desires. As for hardware support, last I checked DSl still uses the 2.4 kernel, so if anything supports less hardware, it would be it.

Also, what's the problem with being able to mount NTFS? He should have access to his own stuff. NTFS-write is not enabled by default, and reading his files is fine.


Edited by Scourge of the Underworld: 9/8/2008 06:31:05 PM

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Because the people who mind don't matter,
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Midnighter 
9/8/08 8:47:09 PM
Immortal

Portable app browser (as already mentioned, be it Opera or Firefox), or your choice of livecds. If you want just broiwsing, then something as lightweight as Slax, Puppy, or even DSL, should do the trick. But if you prefer to be able to do other things as well, and your system has reasonable amount of ram, any mainstream livecd should do (I recommend PCLinuxOS, has most of the browser plugins and media support already, and is fairly light for a KDE distro). Plenty to choose from, simply depends on how "stipped-back" or souped-up you want it.

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mike367 
10/8/08 9:22:14 AM
Serf
Thanks everone, I've downloaded firefox just what I wanted, the kids can't accidentaly see something they shouldn't. Youv'e got me curious though... livecd, slax, dsl, linux, PClinuxOS, puppy, NTFS, ( KDE distro? ) What are they all for?
Well thanks again
Mike.

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Cpt. Lock 
10/8/08 11:35:59 AM
Banned

Hey?

Can't the OP just create a second user for the kids?

Wouldn't firefox create a seperate profile for said new user account?

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1shot1kill 
10/8/08 12:00:27 PM
SuperHero
Colossus


Quote by mike367
Thanks everone, I've downloaded firefox just what I wanted, the kids can't accidentaly see something they shouldn't. Youv'e got me curious though... livecd, slax, dsl, linux, PClinuxOS, puppy, NTFS, ( KDE distro? ) What are they all for?
Well thanks again
Mike.



A liveCD is a CD with a Linux (Linux is a free operating system)distro (distribution) on it that boots from the CD and runs in RAM.

DSL (Damn Small Linux) is a 50MB file and can boot a PC from a USB thumbdrive as well as a CD/DVD. Very handy as it has a built in browser, Open Office and I think a 'photo editing suite. Not entirely sure on that last one.

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gazdude67 
21/8/08 9:00:44 PM
Serf
The otyer option is to not look at all those sites in the first place, just use the computer to rip and burn DVD's as they were designed to do!

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Midnighter 
21/8/08 9:49:39 PM
Immortal

Quote by gazdude67
The otyer option is to not look at all those sites in the first place, just use the computer to rip and burn DVD's as they were designed to do!



Well, you just completely wasted a post by spitting shit, and not remotely offering any real answer. Idiot.

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TheSecret 
21/8/08 10:19:17 PM
Overlord
Quote by Midnighter
Quote by gazdude67
The otyer option is to not look at all those sites in the first place, just use the computer to rip and burn DVD's as they were designed to do!



Well, you just completely wasted a post by spitting shit, and not remotely offering any real answer. Idiot.



Pot...kettle...

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ShiroKage 
21/8/08 10:49:50 PM
Disciple

The simplest solution I think would be to just set up different windows user accounts, and make sure the "parents" one is set to administrator/password protected/private. Then your kids wouldn't accidently stumble across internet history, saved google searches, etc.

Of course, as Master_Scythe and others have mentioned, if your kids went out of their way they could trace your internet habits (if you used my method)... but I don't think most kids would? I certainly wouldn't want to do that to my parents.

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TheSecret 
22/8/08 12:32:41 AM
Overlord
If the kids see that an effort is being made to hide something from them, then that would create an otherwise absent motive to see what mummy and daddy are up to.


Edited by TheSecret: 22/8/2008 12:32:53 AM

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Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.

iamthemaxx 
22/8/08 7:42:26 AM
Mod
SuperHero

Immortal


What sort of hardcore porn are you looking at if you don't want your wife or kids looking at it....

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auditri 
22/8/08 10:21:16 AM
Champion

There is also an 'add-on' for Firefox that is pretty handy for what your talking about.
Its called 'Distrust'.
http://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1559

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Meeko 
22/8/08 6:33:20 PM
Titan

What's wrong with the "Delete all private data" option in FF? You can even set it to automatically run every time you close the browser, too. Just make sure you set it to delete everything.

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