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Why did we leave Desktop for Tower?
Master_Scythe 
7/9/08 10:36:25 PM
Titan

Following on from finding out my DJ-PC is better than i thought, its built in a Desktop case.

and looking at it, got me wondering.

cable management is easier in them.

heat rises, and can get straight to a blowhole rather than hit other cards etc.

you can put a monitor, printer, ANYHTING on top.

IMO they're nicer to build systems in.

So, is there a reason we moved away? Servers are usually Rack mountable, so basically a thin desktop case, why did we move to towers? Im considering buying a good desktop case for my rebuild.

Is it drive bay space? caus even then you get 2X optical and 3X HDD mounts in most desktop cases, and that way the HDDs can breathe without the optical in the way... I dont get it.

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2SHY 
7/9/08 11:36:03 PM
Journeyman
I've have always wanted to build a desktop system.

Unfortnately good desktop cases are hard to find.

You could buy a 4U Rackmount case and use that.

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GeekwithGuns 
8/9/08 12:31:09 AM
Disciple

Why? cos they are lame and remind every of the Hewett Packard era of dullness.

Sorry I know they are practical but ewwwwwww.

I tell you though I have thought about getting an old c64 or amstrad and throw a small factor mobo, ram etc etc and make one completely modern. Imagine taking one along to lan party! PSU could be made look like the external 5 1/4" drive. (thinking out aloud)


Edited by GeekwithGuns: 8/9/2008 12:32:20 AM

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Xen 
8/9/08 12:48:37 AM
Serf

The simple fact is that tower designs are for the most part... better designed.

they tend to cater to enthusiasts more (ever tried to get decent air flow to a CPU pumping enough heat to be the next super nova?
sure you can put in a blow hole but it's very hard to get efficient heat transfer in a desktop.

Hell try setting up a SATA Raid with a 1000watt PSU and Sli/Crossfire setup with high end cooling in a desktop case and you'll see very easily why a majority choose towers.

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SceptreCore 
8/9/08 4:43:45 AM
Guru

Im with the Geek... for pros... and even dare I say more common people prefer Desktops. And large corporate offices, with huge rooms full of office cubical's prefer their space saving attributes. Oh yeah and who else.. old grandmas afraid of technology who send/receive email and that's it.

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smadge1 
8/9/08 5:44:31 AM
Immortal

The slimline cases that Dell use for their Optiplex series works in either orientation.

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The Tick 
8/9/08 9:01:28 AM
Hero
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A good tower case generally has better access to HDDs and can fit a wider variety of video cards (especially the bohemoths we have today).

All I can remember from my days building systems in desktops is the stupid way you had to access HDDs. Some were built to have these under optical bays which meant accessing them was a pain in the arse.

The SFF desktop cases improved on this to some degree but weren't what I would consider useful to enthusiasts as they had limited drive bays and limited options to install larger components such as decent video cards.

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thesorehead 
8/9/08 9:04:35 AM
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For me there are a few main factors that have kept me coming back to towers, even though I like the theory of a desktop:

1. Having seen a few desktop cases, I just don't feel comfortable sitting a monitor on top of them for the most part.
2. Desk space - the physical footprint is significantly greater than a tower, plus when you want to open it up you'd have to shift your monitor and gear (though it would be already on your desk, so that's a plus) rather than just unplugging everything.
3. Cooling - given the limited useful height of a desktop, I don't see 120 mm fans being that common. They must rely on smaller, noisier 80 or sometimes 90 mm fans and if all else fails you can't pop the side and point a desk fan onto the machine.
4. Options - whilst desktop cases are pretty easy to work with, I've found that modern tower cases are probably easier once you get the side off. Drive rails, side-on HDD slots, insignificant depth limitations to name just a few.
5. LANs - once again limited desk space favours the gamer who can put his machine out of sight and out of mind to concentrate on the game. Also towers are more handle-friendly IMHO.


Having said all that, I would recommend a solid desktop to my folks, my sisters, many of my friends as they don't require anything that can't be done with half-height cards, they could use the monitor elevation and desktops are terribly convenient for when you want to access your ports and optical drive(s).

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drago13666 
8/9/08 1:58:41 PM
Titan

if you put anythign oon top of it you loose the advantage of having a blow hole there.

alot of people have pc's on the floor under their desk, you cant do this wiht a desktop.

optical drives would be often hitting things when they open if they were too close to the desk

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smadge1 
8/9/08 2:01:17 PM
Immortal

I have some desktop cases at work (including a slimline Lenovo) with blowholes on top... Makes it a pain to move the LCD screen around where you want it.

The dells all suck air in the front and exhaust it out the back, very well designed, except the dust builds up on the front, but at least it's easy to clean there.


Edited by smadge1: 8/9/2008 2:02:42 PM

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Master_Scythe 
8/9/08 2:43:20 PM
Titan

well.

the traditional desktop case is countering a lot of points made.

its EASILY big enough to have a 120mm blowhole and a monitor on it, without either being restricted.

in a full size desktop case the HDD's and optical bays are next to each other, and each 'cage' can usually lift out (godsend if you ask me).

the case im looking at now on my floor at least has fuckloads of space (its a full size desktop case, not a space saver) could fit any video card.

Weight of heatsinks would be a thing of the past.

all your points are valid on 'htpc cases' or 'space saving' desktop cases, however full size, i still disagree with almost every point argued.

and even lanning, besides 'depth' the monitor is probably as wide as the case anyway.

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