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How to get NTFS data without permission?
bu14-1 
4/9/08 1:22:20 PM
Primarch

So my Dad's motherboard died I think and when I try to copy the data on his HDD or access it, it won't let me, even when I am admin and I try to give full control to everyone. My PC is running Vista Ultimate x64 and his was XP (Home I think). What's the way forward here? Should I try to create accounts with the same usernames and passwords that were on his PC on mine or should I try a repair or what?

Thanks.

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Jeruselem 
4/9/08 1:24:20 PM
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Using an external USB hard drive caddy should work.

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SquallStrife 
4/9/08 1:32:52 PM
Titan

You'll need to take ownership of the folders, using the "Replace permissions on subcontainers and objects" option.

Then you'll be allowed to edit the ACLs and manipulate the files to your heart's content.


Edited by SquallStrife: 4/9/2008 1:34:33 PM

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Master_Scythe 
4/9/08 2:10:23 PM
Titan

Fuck thats an annoying task to do.

you need to boot into a mode (dunno what on vista) that gives you the 'permissions' tab. then add yourself manually.

it takes a while.

If its on an XP home machine you need to be in safe mode ot do some Hex editing to get that tab to show up.

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The Tick 
4/9/08 2:19:55 PM
Hero
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Quote by SquallStrife
You'll need to take ownership of the folders, using the "Replace permissions on subcontainers and objects" option.

Then you'll be allowed to edit the ACLs and manipulate the files to your heart's content.



+1 to this

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bu14-1 
5/9/08 11:54:06 AM
Primarch

Thanks.

I tried the "Replace permission on subcontainers and objects" thing on the whole partition, but it didn't work by itself. I was then playing around the the "Documents and Settings" folder, which I think is the only one that matters, and I did that same thing but also some other stuff with the permissions settings or whatever, but I don't recall exactly what. Anyway, it worked. Let me know if you want me to find out exactly what I did.

So the problem is solved.

Thanks.

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espionage 
5/9/08 3:52:30 PM
Master
seems like encryption issues?

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zebra 
5/9/08 4:04:54 PM
SuperHero
Titan


I believe there is a UBCD (Ultimate Boot CD) that allows you to boot to a mode that reads NTFS volumes "RAW". My understanding however, is that the media/plugin that allows you to do this costs money :(.

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maxamatosis 
6/9/08 12:19:39 PM
Master

Quote by bu14-1
Thanks.

I tried the "Replace permission on subcontainers and objects" thing on the whole partition, but it didn't work by itself. I was then playing around the the "Documents and Settings" folder, which I think is the only one that matters, and I did that same thing but also some other stuff with the permissions settings or whatever, but I don't recall exactly what. Anyway, it worked. Let me know if you want me to find out exactly what I did.

So the problem is solved.

Thanks.


You might find that that was the only directory you were locked access to anyway. That would go some ways to explaining it.

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Master_Scythe 
6/9/08 1:22:27 PM
Titan

yeah that'll be the only one that locked you out. By default on documents and settings are controlled by permissions.

you did one of 2 things.

allowed access to your username, or 'all users' like i suggested.

or using the replace permissions command on the single folder and it was ahppier doing that than the whole partition.

either way, congrats there.

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Midnighter 
6/9/08 1:33:46 PM
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Boot from Linux livecd, copy data to another drive/partition?

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maxamatosis 
6/9/08 2:04:26 PM
Master

Quote by Midnighter
Boot from Linux livecd, copy data to another drive/partition?



Writing to NTFS volumes under Linux? No thanks.

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Master_Scythe 
6/9/08 2:57:47 PM
Titan

I use Gparted and have often 'force mount'ed a 'dirty shutdown' NTFS volume on various linux versions.

i say with confidience they have the NTFS drivers sorted out now.

I doubt they're perfect, but id trust em.

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