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New Box needed - been a long long time......
GeekwithGuns 
21/8/08 2:52:52 PM
Charge

Hi all, its been a long time in the terms of me building a pc, most of the new type vid cards etc are all foreign as is their codes, speed etc etc.
In any case I want (NEED) a new pc to get me through the next couple years and have done a little digging about and came up with some stuff. Problem my budget is 1500 the stuff I have selected is 1800+ from IT estate, so I need some help pruning or making changes to bring back into budget, as I mentioned.
This is the list I made and prices:

CPU/Processor Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 379
Video Card PCI-e (nV) GTX280 1GB Leadtek (DDR3) 539
MotherBoard Intel S775 Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3P 176
Power Supply 620W Corsair HX-620 (Modular) 155
3.5" HDD SATA-300 500GB 16MB Samsung x2 (@ 74.00) 148
4GB Kit (2x2048MHz) PC8500 1066MHz Corsair-Dominator 253
5.25" SATA DVD Burner/Rw Pioneer DVR-216BK Black 36
Full Tower Thermaltake SopranoRS 100 VG6000BWS 154
Total 1840.00
Prices from IT Estate

So any recommendations where I can scrimp a few dollars with out sacrificing too much speed or quality would be most appreciated.
It will be used for the occassional game play, work, applications, photo manipulation, downloading and watching movies tv etc.
Cheers
gwg

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eckythump 
21/8/08 3:21:04 PM
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I'd drop the CPU back to the Q9450. The performance difference between the 9450 and 9550 is fairly insignificant. If you plan on overclocking, then you could even drop back to the Q6600 as that's still a very good CPU and overclocks well.

Don't bother with the fancy DDR2-1066 RAM. It'll give you such a pisspoor performance increase for the extra you're spending on it that it can't really be justified. Get a 4GB (2x2GB) kit of DDR2-800 for <$100 and it'll suit you just fine.

This won't help with your budgeting, but the WD 640GB SATA HDDs are excellent value and are the fastest 7200 RPM HDDs on the market at the moment and you should try and get those instead of the 500gb drives if you can.

You could also consider a ATI HD4870 video card instead. It's not as powerful as the GTX280, but it is a *very* good card and won't let you down for a while to come.

That should bring you back to around the $1500 mark.

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GeekwithGuns 
21/8/08 5:21:25 PM
Charge

Thanks thats the sort of info I was after.
Not being upto date with all the performance issues and leaps of technology, I just want to beable to buy, build and forget for a while.
I dont have to worry about overclocking, then I need to buy after market coolers etc etc. I currently have a p3.4 775 running about 3.7 steady in a antec 900 case and its like a wind tunnel not to mention dust and pet fur trap.

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SceptreCore 
21/8/08 6:14:54 PM
Guru

Quote by GeekwithGuns
Thanks thats the sort of info I was after.
Not being upto date with all the performance issues and leaps of technology, I just want to beable to buy, build and forget for a while.
I dont have to worry about overclocking, then I need to buy after market coolers etc etc. I currently have a p3.4 775 running about 3.7 steady in a antec 900 case and its like a wind tunnel not to mention dust and pet fur trap.

You could also save money on the case... The Soprano sucks. Get a CoolerMaster CM690, it's much cooler and designed far superior to the TT Suprano. You may want to get a 4-pin cable extender though. And knock down that PSU to the HX520.

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tantryl 
21/8/08 7:32:14 PM
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You could save even more money by getting the Antec Sonata III w/ 500W EarthWatts ($180ish both case & PSU) or Sonata Plus 550 with 550W NeoHE ($200ish both case & PSU).

They would be good for the HD4870 but not so much for the GTX-280. The PSUs would handle it fine, they're both very high quality with the NeoHE 550W only a tiny margin away from the HX-620, but the internals for the case would be a bit cramped (the GTX is a good 3cm longer).

But the HD4870 fits your budget better.

So:

ANTEC Sonata 3 (III) $176
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 $399
GA-EP43-DS3 $119
3.5" HDD SATA-300 640GB 16MB Samsung (x2) $172
DDR2 4GB Kit 800MHz Patriot V $110
Pioneer DVR-216BK Black $36
4870 512MB HIS H487F512P $319
Total $1331 from itestate

Sadly itestate have no Sonata Plus 550, which is a pity. They also have no EP43-DS3R which would be my preferred suggestion on the mainboard front. No WD 640GB drives which are the best performers either.

If you're putting it together yourself you could get those from elsewhere, I'd really suggest you do.

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GeekwithGuns 
6/9/08 9:51:50 AM
Charge

Thanks for the help guys, new pc is on the way.
All up worked out to be a tad over 1600 including delivery to tassie.

ended up getting:

Case: CoolerMaster HAF RC-932

MoBo: Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3P

CPU: Quad Q9550

RAM: DDR2 4GB Kit (2x2048MB) PC6400 800MHz Patriot

PSU: 700W Seasonic M12 (Modular) Super Silent

GPU: GTX260 896MB Inno 3D OverClocked (620/2100MHz) (will do for now)

HD: SATA-300 500GB 16MB Samsung (will change later to faster drive maybe SSD for OS, if do I will get a couple of 1tb for storage)

Optical: Pioneer DVR-216BK Black (later getting Blue Ray)

I think this initial build will give me enough room down the track to upgrade and change over components, would have liked a better gpu but no 4870's in stock and was trying to keep it in budget of 1600.00 (worked out to be 1624.00 incl delivery and build, although will most likely have to pull apart and re organise.
Case will be at least easy to work on, least wise better than the antec 900 dust bowl I have.

cheers
GWG

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tantryl 
6/9/08 10:16:08 AM
SuperHero
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Looks good.

Goonit has unfortunately found out that the Sonata and Sonata Plus can't fit the GTX2x0 series, so glad you didn't order that :)

That 700W PSU is significant overkill. Even if you overclock the CPU you'd be looking at a max draw of around 250-280W. A good 500W PSU will do the job with ease.

And I agree with whomever said it (ecky?), the Q9450 is virtually the same performance for less monies.


Edited by tantryl: 6/9/2008 10:16:41 AM

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GeekwithGuns 
6/9/08 10:34:26 AM
Charge

I was told that they have ceased prod of the 9450's? may be I was told a furphy?
In any case I got the 9550 for 408.00 so was not that much difference.
Just have to wait for it to arrive now. Damm it!

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tantryl 
6/9/08 10:59:01 AM
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No, that's right. My bad, the Q9400 is the replacement. And it's got cut cache. Which makes the Q9550 a good option.

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