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8800GTS 320Mb SLI or single 9800GT?
Quasimodo 
8/9/08 12:05:32 PM
Master

I have been looking at getting a single 9800GT for $160 (from MSY) to go into an upgrade I'm about to do, sounds fair enough for a budget upgrade, so what's the problem?

The problem is I've just come upon the chance at 2 used XFX 8800GTS 320Mb cards for not much more.

I'm looking at using an Asus P5N-E SLI mobo (new for $118) and an E7200 C2D (new for $147), with 2Gb DDR2 800.

It's tempting to run the two 8800GTS cards in SLI over the single 9800GT, for a good price.

what would you guys do....flip a coin, or go with the SLI power of the 8800GTS cards?

EDIT: I searched for relevant reviews and comparisons, but came up empty handed. If anyone could supply a URL to what I need I could take a look.



Edited by Quasimodo: 8/9/2008 2:10:38 PM

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SceptreCore 
8/9/08 2:05:36 PM
Guru

Stuff the 8800GTS's, go for the 9800GT, and if you feel up to it, get another later.

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Quasimodo 
8/9/08 2:11:59 PM
Master

That crossed my mind. It would take me months, if not longer, to get a second one, but buying second hand video makes me nervous :)

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donkeyruler 
8/9/08 2:35:50 PM
Overlord

I'd recommend an e8400 over the E7200 imo.
I'd also pick the 9800GT over the 8800GTS because one it is newer technology and two I dont like second and stuff in my systen.

But i'd prefer a cheap 9800GTX+ if you could fork it out, much faster, runs very cool and is quite the good overclocker.

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lukey1990 
8/9/08 2:41:35 PM
Champion

8800GTS's in SLI would be faster than a single 8800/9800GT.

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Quasimodo 
8/9/08 2:42:46 PM
Master

Yes, I know what you are saying about the E8400, but at an extra $60 I'd rather put a little extra into video. For what I was going to pay for the twin 8800GTS cards I could step up to a brand new 9800GTX, but fall short of the GTX+ on price.

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mohawk 
8/9/08 3:21:29 PM
Guru

The 9800GT hands down or go even better with a 9800GTX+ or HD 4850.

I was running 2x 8800GTS 320mb's in SLI and upgraded to a single 8800GT 512mb. The single card outscored the SLI setup by about 1500 marks in 3dmark06. I also found I had better performance in every game I played.

Also, with one card there is less heat, less weight, less noise, less power drain on the PSU and more space.

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SceptreCore 
8/9/08 3:39:27 PM
Guru

Quote by lukey1990
8800GTS's in SLI would be faster than a single 8800/9800GT.

Nah... not worth it, it wouldn't be faster... maybe by a tiny margin, but still you find that the 9800GT would be the overall winning performer in most games.

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Quasimodo 
8/9/08 3:39:29 PM
Master

Quote by lukey1990
8800GTS's in SLI would be faster than a single 8800/9800GT.



I would have thought so, as I'm sure I saw this in a benchmark comparison against the 9800GT, but at the same time I can't be sure, and they were most likely 512Mb cards and probably some factory OC version as well, as I'm sure the difference was quite noticeable.

Quote by mohawk
The 9800GT hands down or go even better with a 9800GTX+ or HD 4850.

I was running 2x 8800GTS 320mb's in SLI and upgraded to a single 8800GT 512mb. The single card outscored the SLI setup by about 1500 marks in 3dmark06. I also found I had better performance in every game I played.

Also, with one card there is less heat, less weight, less noise, less power drain on the PSU and more space.


The 4850 would be no good to me down the track if I go with a second card later, as the board is SLI, not crossfireX.

The tower is an all aluminium item with 6 case fans, so heat probably wouldn't be such a big issue, and as for space, well there will only be a single 250Gb SATA and DVD-RW in there as well.

What you said about running the 320s in SLI and switching to the single 512 though was exactly what I was looking for...cheers all.



Edited by Quasimodo: 8/9/2008 3:46:55 PM

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Tech-Kid 
8/9/08 4:03:33 PM
Champion
Quote by lukey1990
8800GTS's in SLI would be faster than a single 8800/9800GT.



I agree actually. 2 8800GTS 320MB in SLi does provide better performance.

8800GTS 320MB SLi: http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1057/5/investigating_geforce_8800gts_320mb_sli_performance/inde

9800GT: http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1523/4/palit_geforce_9800_gt_sonic_512mb/index.html

Now the test systems are different, (The 8800GTS's were tested on dual cores) and as a result the 9800GT had a quad core points advantage.

If a Q6600 at 3GHz and a 4850 loses to 2 x 8800GTS's and a E6600 at 3.3GHz, that's definitely saying something. Remember that drivers have been improved and every bit of processing power is probably available for use in the SLi setup now.

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Quasimodo 
8/9/08 4:12:33 PM
Master

The 9800GT benchmark you linked to is Vista. If you go to the same test under XP the 9800GT is the winner, and since there is no test for the twin 8800GTS cards under Vista it leaves the result open to interpretation.

at 1920 res the SLI 8800GTS pulls ahead, and there is no 1600 res test on the SLI cards, so again we are left wondering. The simple fact of the matter is though I would not be running at 1600 or 1920, so the 9800GT would appear to be better suited.

Mind you, with all this in mind, if these were 512Mb XXX version cards I probably wouldn't be able to get my hands on them fast enough....LOL


Edited by Quasimodo: 8/9/2008 4:24:47 PM

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Tech-Kid 
8/9/08 7:08:37 PM
Champion
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1523/12/palit_geforce_9800_gt_sonic_512mb/index.html

Well it only has 800 extra points in running XP, most likely coming from the heaps extra CPU points (being a quad). And added that the drivers for the dual 8800GTS's are over a year old, expect some more points for current drivers.

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SceptreCore 
8/9/08 7:37:37 PM
Guru

Quote by Tech-Kid
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1523/12/palit_geforce_9800_gt_sonic_512mb/index.html

Well it only has 800 extra points in running XP, most likely coming from the heaps extra CPU points (being a quad). And added that the drivers for the dual 8800GTS's are over a year old, expect some more points for current drivers.

The 9800GT's use less power, produce less heat, and when/if he gets another... it'll be the best solution in the long run.

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Tech-Kid 
8/9/08 8:06:11 PM
Champion
Well if he wants performance, at least he knows the 8800GTS is the choice. If he wants to be a greenie, get the 9800GT.

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Quasimodo 
8/9/08 8:20:20 PM
Master

Green is also the colour of my modified 5.0L V8, no I think I'll pass on the used cards.

Besides, the deciding factor just kicked in. The SLI cards means a MUCH beefier PSU to run them, and combined with the extra $65 to run used cards it's a simple...."Stuff that!". If I'm going to spend extra it will be to go to a better CPU or Graphics card.

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Tech-Kid 
8/9/08 8:45:59 PM
Champion
LOL got a Holden dude?

Gotta love iron block Aussie manufactured V8's.

Back on topic: Just get the 9800GT and get another one later.

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Quasimodo 
8/9/08 8:52:28 PM
Master

Quote by Tech-Kid
LOL got a Holden dude?



No need for insults....LOL

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Fat_Bodybuilder 
8/9/08 9:53:42 PM
Titan

The 320mb would most likely give a small benefit over the 9800GT, however they are large, power hungry cards, and the benefit would not be worth all those other things. A single card solution is a lot more practical, as well as games that do not scale well will get MUCH better performance in the 9800GT.

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lukey1990 
8/9/08 10:39:53 PM
Champion

Quote by Quasimodo
Quote by Tech-Kid
LOL got a Holden dude?



No need for insults....LOL



Actually David is quite the V8 Holden fan.


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Edited by lukey1990: 8/9/2008 10:41:21 PM

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Tech-Kid 
8/9/08 11:27:37 PM
Champion
Quote by lukey1990
Quote by Quasimodo
Quote by Tech-Kid
LOL got a Holden dude?



No need for insults....LOL



Actually David is quite the V8 Holden fan.


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What the fuck were the tag lines for the spoiler function again...


Edited by lukey1990: 8/9/2008 10:41:21 PM



Oh yeah as if Ford is better xD

The HSV LS2's and LS7's will outgun any FPV Boss hahaha.

But yeah V8's FTW. Who would have thought an Asian likes Holden?

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