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8800GT 512 KO vs 9800GT 512 whatever
Antraman 
3/9/08 1:06:25 PM
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Hi, just looking for a quick lunchtime answer rather than spending a few hours researching on the net...sorry guys...

Getting the son an upgrade, trying to do it on the cheap. Basically I'll carbon copy my own system, upgrade mine and hand him down the leftovers:

ASUS M2N32SLi Deluxe MB (grabbed an el-cheapo new off ebay)
AMD 6400x2 (just replaced with a 9950x4)
4GB Corsair PC6400 RAM (replaced with 4GB PQI PC8600)
will grab 2x 74 GB WD Raptors and image mine to his

Question is I got a evga 8800GT 512MB KO edition, and am happy with it. I am planning to hand that down to him, and I want to grab me the cheapest option that IS NOT a step down from this card.

Would I be looking at a 9800GT 512 overclocked as worthwhile?

cheers,



Edited by Antraman: 3/9/2008 3:25:49 PM

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Fat_Bodybuilder 
3/9/08 1:38:06 PM
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Definitely not, IMHO. The performance gain wouldn't be enough to justify that amount of money. I'd either buy myself something quite bit better, of just buy your son something like an HD 3850.

Else, I would spend a little and get something like the HD 4850 for myself, that's quite a bit ahead of the 8800GT.

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Jeruselem 
3/9/08 2:12:27 PM
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If you want to stick with nVidia, get 9800GTX+ or put a cheap 9600GT into the son's PC.

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Jack Genders 
3/9/08 2:21:38 PM
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The HD4850 is "8800GT" of today. Good price and solid performance. Give your son the 8800GT and pick yourself up the HD4850.
The 9800GT is a step up in technology, but in performance it's not much of a change. The 9800GT is a good choice for an upgrade from a lower spec card. The core is the G92B with the same frequencies on a 55nm manufacturing process, so it would overclock probably better and be a bit more stable with it's heat/performance ratio.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/HD_4850/

http://i5.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/HD_4850/images/3dmark06_1280_1024.gif


Edited by Jack Genders: 3/9/2008 02:27:34 PM

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Antraman 
3/9/08 3:24:48 PM
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Well, we're limited to a PCI-e VGA, as the motherboard is already bought, and I was going to give him the 8800GT, and get myself an upgrade. So getting something "quite a bit better" is definitely an option for myself :-)

Is the HD4850 that much better than a 9800GT Ultimate?

9800GT-U http://www.mwave.com.au/newAU/mwaveAU/productdetail.asp?SKU=42021963

HD4850
http://www.ozdirect.com.au/product_info.php?source=shopbot&products_id=61850

Seems like the 9800GT is the better deal to me...depending on availability


There's no point in me going for an 8800GTX Ultra...thats old tech now, isn't it?

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lukey1990 
3/9/08 3:36:13 PM
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Quote by Antraman
Well, we're limited to a PCI-e VGA, as the motherboard is already bought, and I was going to give him the 8800GT, and get myself an upgrade. So getting something "quite a bit better" is definitely an option for myself :-)

Is the HD4850 that much better than a 9800GT Ultimate?

9800GT-U http://www.mwave.com.au/newAU/mwaveAU/productdetail.asp?SKU=42021963

HD4850
http://www.ozdirect.com.au/product_info.php?source=shopbot&products_id=61850

Seems like the 9800GT is the better deal to me...depending on availability


There's no point in me going for an 8800GTX Ultra...thats old tech now, isn't it?



Lets just say the HD4850 is faster than the 8800 Ultra.

well worth the extra money over the 8800GT/9800GT.

remember that the 9800GT is a 55nm 8800GT.

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Sherman 
3/9/08 4:06:14 PM
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"Lets just say the HD4850 is faster than the 8800 Ultra. "

It is faster, but judging by the benchmarks I've seen, it isn't by much. When you consider price/performance, I think the Nvidia option is the go which is rather ironic imo.

Edit: @ Antraman

As far as the 8800 GTX Ultra goes, it is old tech but still holds its own in games. The only game I've had to turn the settings down for with my standard GTX has been Crysis, a game I wish I didn't waste money on. I would imagine your experience with the 8800GT has been much the same.

So to sum up, the 4850 is the better performer, but not necessarily the best bang for buck. You have to decide if a relatively small performance increase is worth the extra money.

2nd edit: Just to back up my claims about performance.

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1523/1/palit_geforce_9800_gt_sonic_512mb/index.html

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/HD_4850/1.html

(there's no 9800GT in the second review, but there is an 88GT which - as discussed - is roughly the same performance wise)

Now, both these reviews are a little bit old, so you can assume that the 4850 has increased it's performance slightly with driver updates. That increase would not be very significant however.



Edited by Sherman: 3/9/2008 04:33:34 PM

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SceptreCore 
3/9/08 7:59:35 PM
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Dude get the 4850... fo sho!

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Antraman 
4/9/08 11:11:08 AM
Champion

Actually I am liking the look of this
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_686&products_id=8005

Hitech Radeon HD 4870 1GB GDDR5.

I don't mind the extra expense...sheesh, the amount of money I have spent on computers in this household over the last several years...

I'm running an ASUS 24" Widescreen LCD and a 19" CRT off the 8800GT 512MB KO at the moment, and find that I do some get some minor graphics errors in some applications. I think the resolutions I am playing with may just be a tad to high for the card, so if this can remedy the situation, I am all for it.

cheers,
Antra


Edited by Antraman: 4/9/2008 11:11:48 AM

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Sherman 
4/9/08 12:05:52 PM
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Getting a 4870 doesn't look like a bad idea. Sure, you have to pay more for it, but you will get a much more noticeable increase in performance. In a lot of games, the increase of the 4850 over the 8800 is less then 10 FPS which isn't worth with extra cash.

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Antraman 
4/9/08 12:25:56 PM
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Hehe. I'm a sucka for new tech.

Just placed my order with pccasegear now $391 including express postage. ETA early next week.

Good times!

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SceptreCore 
4/9/08 6:18:56 PM
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Quote by Antraman
Hehe. I'm a sucka for new tech.

Just placed my order with pccasegear now $391 including express postage. ETA early next week.

Good times!

I'll trade you my 512mb 4870 :)

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