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GPU Longevity
SquallStrife 
1/9/08 1:10:48 PM
Titan

Hi friends!

I enjoyed around 2 years of faithful service from each of the last 3 video cards I've bought: Radeon 9800XT, Radeon X850XT PE, GeForce 8800GTS 640MB.

If I were to upgrade to a HD4870, would I enjoy the same length of service? I'm running a Q6600 @ 3.6GHz, with 4GB of RAM if that helps...

Not sure whether to splash out for the X2, I only have a 1280x1024 panel, and the benchmarks aren't convincing me that it's worth it... Thoughts?

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lukey1990 
1/9/08 1:15:19 PM
Champion

a single 4870 would be enough for the resolution you use.

it will definitely run all games now and in the future, of course in two years it will not do so when set to the highest graphic level.

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SquallStrife 
1/9/08 1:30:12 PM
Titan

Well, the only game I've had to tone down for the 8800GTS has been Crysis, and only with a couple of options set to high instead of ultra high.

I haven't decided what to do yet...

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Doctor Octopus 
1/9/08 1:34:19 PM
Primarch
I'm baffled at the longetivity of your GTS 640mb if you use a 1280 x 1024 monitor. =S

You can't seriously need to upgrade...

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mark84 
1/9/08 2:03:02 PM
Hero
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I'd expect the same longevity from it. That's about the length I'd expect out of performance cards.

Why would it be any different anyway?

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SquallStrife 
1/9/08 2:28:13 PM
Titan

DocOc: What's baffling? It's been almost 2 years since I bought it, and games are just starting to trickle through that need me to wind back the detail. I hate winding back the detail.

mark84: Thanks for the advice! I only thought that because of the price point. The X2 is pretty much the same price that I paid for my GTS back in the day, the regular 4870 is about half that. That's all. Everything I've read points to the 4870 being the card I'll buy.

Edit: Mathe-ma-matics.


Edited by SquallStrife: 1/9/2008 2:29:26 PM

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mark84 
1/9/08 4:25:46 PM
Hero
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Ah I see where you're coming from now. Yeah, the 4870 should be good, they're a lot cheaper compared to previous gens due to better manufacturing techniques and good competition with nvidia.

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Apocrypha 
1/9/08 4:41:02 PM
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Quote by Doctor Octopus
I'm baffled at the longetivity of your GTS 640mb if you use a 1280 x 1024 monitor. =S

You can't seriously need to upgrade...



+1. Buy a bigger monitor. Seriously.

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heydude 
1/9/08 10:21:51 PM
Champion

Whats so bad about the GTS ???

Anyways, you will do well with a 4870, but personally I would go for the X2 version as they kick arse!!!

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osama_bin_athlon 
1/9/08 11:56:21 PM
Hero
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my thoughts?
get a bigger, better monitor!
;)

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SquallStrife 
2/9/08 8:02:22 AM
Titan

I have thought about upgrading my monitors (I have two 19" non-wides), but I am honestly 100% happy with the amount of screen real-estate I have.

Not to mention replacing them both would be a rather costly exercise.

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Apocrypha 
2/9/08 10:05:45 AM
Master

Then you have no reason to upgrade. The 4870 and X2 are designed to run resolutions of 1920x1200 or 2560x1600, they'd be wasted on a 19"!

You can get a decent 22" for under $300, and a decent 24" for around $500, usually much less. That would be a much more sensible upgrade, plus you can keep one of your 19" screens.

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osama_bin_athlon 
2/9/08 12:27:40 PM
Hero
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my 28" ViewSonic was 'only' $625 - I honestly couldn't stand going back to a 22", let alone a 19" - you only 'think' your happy....ignorance is bliss, I s'pose.
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SceptreCore 
2/9/08 1:32:39 PM
Guru

I have just gone back to 19inch from the 22 inch I sold (to get a better one) and I honestly can't stand it... it's too painful. Must ... have ... wider... screen!

So my suggestion to you squally, is just replace one of the monitors, and then get another one later. A decent 22inch can be had for about $220 - $300. Like this little number that got top marks from
Atomic.

http://www.megaware.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=483_487&products_id=801

Then you would be making better use of the 4870 or even X2 should you be tempted (and you should)

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Jack Genders 
2/9/08 2:59:37 PM
Disciple

If you only have 1280x1024 go for a HD4850, that can push those pixels with no problem and you haven't wasted a whole lot of GPU on a meager monitor!

Your currently running a 8800GTS 640MB? I'd personally go for a Wide screen LCD now, 22 inch and above, and then consider a new GPU as the prices will only become cheaper and the drivers better.




Edited by Jack Genders: 2/9/2008 3:00:59 PM

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SquallStrife 
2/9/08 3:42:08 PM
Titan

Thanks for the suggestions guys. :)

I have two 22s at work, and I honestly don't notice coming home to two 19s.

Part of the motivation behind upgrading is that I'm starting to get into some of the more graphically intensive Oblivion mods. At 1280x1024 with high levels of antialiasing and anisotropic filtering the 8800 is feeling the pain.

I did look at the 4850, but then I figured if I went for the 4870, not only would my rig be a bit more future-resistant (not really any such thing as future-PROOF is there?) but if I did go to a bigger monitor sooner than I expected, I'd be prepared.

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SceptreCore 
2/9/08 3:50:55 PM
Guru

4870 it is then!

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Pantsmonkey 
2/9/08 4:03:15 PM
Titan

I have literally just hit the purchase button on a new rig including a 4870X2 and a 24inch Monitron.

I have read tonnes about this card and even bought Septembers atomic but it only reviewed the 4870 (WTF) I don't really consider it future proof but I am pretty damned sure this machine should run everything well for at least the next 12 months.

I have read time and time again that under FHD 19x12 res the X2 won't be much benefit to you.

Also the x2 would love upwards of 4ghz of processor to avoid bottle necking. As such I will be water cooling the E8500 duo out of the box to 4ish.



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SceptreCore 
2/9/08 5:24:32 PM
Guru

You won't need to watercool to get that thing above 4GHz it will do about 4.2 on air. 4.5 if your using the E8600

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Jack Genders 
3/9/08 7:48:39 AM
Disciple

Quote by SquallStrife
(not really any such thing as future-PROOF is there?)



Not in the hardware consumer market...

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