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Stumped with "Overheating CPU" accoriding to the ZERRRRRRRRRRRRRRR beep :'(
Moarphine 
28/8/08 9:59:24 PM
Disciple

Hi I really am no expert on the technicals of my problem so I seek pro help :D. It started a few days ago, my perfect computer Ive never had a problem with just gave me a random beep. A few days later I got another random beep. Last night I had an entire night of beeping, (this is all whilst playing WoW, a game my pc should not be struggling with). Today Ill Ive had is constant beeping from the mobo.

During this time I checked my Easytune5 PC health stats and Im idle at 40 45 and ingame im at over 70 degrees. Its gone up each day it seems. (winter here aswell). At first I thought it might be the fan, covered in dust, crippled by the horrible stuff. I took it out gave it a decent clean with a cloth and small brush, the put it back. I did notice that the Stock CPU fan was abit loose taking it out, and i didnt quite get it back in (Its in and sturdy but the pins dont seem to be as in as they could be, couldnt work out how to get em in harder :P ).

Well Ive got no idea why the sudden constant beeps whenever Im in game and the 75 degree+ cpu temps Im getting reported. It really doesnt feel the hot inside, its pretty cool.

If youve got any suggesions or anything dont be scared to help a newb a hand, been searching the net all night for an answer, it sounds stupid but if the Stock cpu thing was in a little bit more (its not hanging out its pretty sturdy as is) it might not happen? It just makes 0 sence, how can it be working fine then BAM massive temps. Sigh neway thanks for any help in advance.

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Doctor Octopus 
28/8/08 10:09:24 PM
Master
It's a possibility that the heat-sink itself is not seated properly, and over time it got a little more loose. If you are willing to spend money, get a bottle of isopropyl and use cotton swabs to wipe off the old shit that comes with the stock heatsink, and then replace it with a nice pea-size drop of Arctic Silver 5 :-)

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Moarphine 
28/8/08 10:11:59 PM
Disciple

hmm, that would make sence as the cpu cooler is a bit loose, that dirty crap on top of cpu and bottom of cpu cooler is Thermal Paste right?, so if i was to replace that with arctic silver and really get the fan tighter I might stop the insane temp and beeping? hmm

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Dany Williams 
29/8/08 12:22:53 AM
Guru

If you only removed the HS and then replaced it without reapplying the paste then this is your problem.

As you have broken the original bond between the CPU and the paste there will be a gape present, thermal paste will not last for ever, as the Doc said remove it, clean it, reapply AS5 and then reinstall the heat sink, making sure it is seated properly.



Note: (1) If there is any residue on the top of the CPU clean this also making sure not to spill any onto the mobo or into the socket. (2) Also once you have placed the HS onto the CPU do not lift it up again otherwise you will have to start again. .

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Moarphine 
29/8/08 1:01:41 AM
Disciple

Uh damnit, looks like Imma have to get some new paste as I took the thing off 5 times trying to get one of the screws in. Im taking the thing down to my locale so hopefully If i buy the paste from them theyll do it for us, thanks for the help guys Im guessing one of the screwpins came loose, the paste bond was broken setting of a chain reactions, cheers....hopefully pc will be back to normal 4/9bt need more kills lol.

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Doctor Octopus 
29/8/08 5:53:21 AM
Master
Yeah you need to apply quite a lot of force on the final clip-screw to make sure the thing is secure. But when it is, it definitely won't feel loose.

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Midnight_light 
29/8/08 10:43:22 AM
Master
You dont need a pea sized drop of AS5 at most you should have it the size of a grain of uncooked rice

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Doctor Octopus 
29/8/08 5:01:03 PM
Master
Quote by Midnight_light
You dont need a pea sized drop of AS5 at most you should have it the size of a grain of uncooked rice



I disagree as Arctic themselves give specific instructions on how to apply the stuff, and I'm sure they do their research :P A pea size drop or a thin line down the center of the CPU is what is meant to be good.

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CameronMcDonald 
29/8/08 5:21:54 PM
Initiate

Depends on core location - they have good "how-to" PDFs on the Arctic site.

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Moarphine 
29/8/08 7:53:03 PM
Disciple

So I went down to my local and grabbed some ArcticSilver5 and a Zalman CNPS7000B-AICU. Well first off thanks for your help peeps. Second off now Im really stumped. The heatsink does not seem to be compatible with my mobo or something, Im missing a retention guide? and the measurements dont really seem to match. If I just put the stock cpu back using the Arctics5 would it solve the insane CPU temps? cheers for any suggestions...

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mark84 
29/8/08 8:37:09 PM
Hero
Guru


Stock with arctic silver should solve it.
Grain of rice dollop in center of cpu and mount heatsink (making sure both are clean before hand).

As for your new HSF:
http://www.zalman.co.kr/ENG/product/Product_Read.asp?idx=151
To use the CNPS7000 Series coolers on socket 775, ZM-CS1 (Socket 775 Clip Support for CNPS7000 Series) must be purchased separately
Which looks like this:
http://www.zalman.co.kr/ENG/product/Product_Read.asp?idx=129

You may be better off with a CNPS7700-Cu or something if you need the low profile form factor.

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Moarphine 
29/8/08 8:40:41 PM
Disciple

I see thanks Mark, hopefully Austin will sell that, tomorow!

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Moarphine 
29/8/08 9:19:22 PM
Disciple

ok, So I've decided to just take the Zalman back and use the stockcooler, I dont OC or anything. So with the application of the AS5, can I get some clarity, getting lots of mixxed msg's. Around about a rice grain in the centre, then evenly and thinly spread it across the CPU, I dont need to spread it across the HSF?

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mark84 
30/8/08 12:45:01 AM
Hero
Guru


nah don't spread. grain of rice size in the middle, then when you mount the heatsink the pressure will spread it out evenly. Let us know if that solves you problem.

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Moarphine 
30/8/08 7:25:08 PM
Disciple

*UPDATE* Went to the shops and got a Thermaltake Blue Orb 2, took ages to install with trusty mum ready to give a hand (first time) used the As5, eventually got it nice and tight. Replugging all the cords and crap took a little while as they didnt explain weather it was positive or negative. All seems to be working great, Easytune 5 says 16 degrees in WoW, and TAT intel monitor says 25 degres in WoW. Thankyou to all your help guys, worked out in the end :D, thankyou Mark.

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scruffy1 
30/8/08 7:52:02 PM
Primarch

well done - the first time is the most problematic

be glad the ihs is there - the older "naked" socket a stuff is really fiddly


Edited by scruffy1: 30/8/2008 7:53:46 PM

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Midnight_light 
31/8/08 8:19:26 PM
Master
Quote by Doctor Octopus
Quote by Midnight_light
You dont need a pea sized drop of AS5 at most you should have it the size of a grain of uncooked rice



I disagree as Arctic themselves give specific instructions on how to apply the stuff, and I'm sure they do their research :P A pea size drop or a thin line down the center of the CPU is what is meant to be good.



IF your HSF is flat you only need a rice sized amount of it. Its only to fill in the air gaps that the concave and convex HSF bases have.


Edited by Midnight_light: 31/8/2008 8:21:50 PM

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