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Phenom FX-82 to run at 4.4GHz stock?
mark84 
28/8/08 12:30:35 PM
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http://reviewage.co.uk/content/view/33/1/
http://www.techpowerup.com/69705/Phenom_FX_in_the_Works_AMD_to_take_Another_shot_at...Kentsfield. (thanks nighthawk)

Possible, or FUD?


Edited by mark84: 28/8/2008 07:50:52 PM

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Master_Scythe 
28/8/08 12:32:36 PM
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If its multiplier is really 20X, that means the FSB wouldnt need to be that high.

I havent tried overclocking phenoms before, so i'l hold my judgement at bay. wait for someone who own a phenom and overclocks.

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Jeruselem 
28/8/08 12:54:37 PM
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You'd need a silly multiplier like that since FSB (sorry HyperTransport) is set so low.

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Shikimaru 
28/8/08 2:41:52 PM
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lol, Booyah, Go AMD :)

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SquallStrife 
28/8/08 2:57:02 PM
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AMD is doing a Netburst.

High multipliers for obscene clock rates, compensating for inferior architecture. (Note, I didn't say "poor" because Phenom isn't bad, it's just proven to not be as good as Core 2).

I shudder at the cooling requirements of these things.

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SceptreCore 
28/8/08 3:08:54 PM
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if it has a 25* multiplier then it's going to be a 5GHz processor.

Apparently this is possible to get the phenom clocks this high when they introduce Hydra or K10.5 Rev.D when the High K Metal Gate technology will be incorporated in to the architecture.

And @ SquallStrife, the phenom architecture really proves it's worth with every increase in clock speed... and that's when it shows it's full colours.

I think I might get one of these as my next upgrade.

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F117_Nighthawk 
28/8/08 4:55:12 PM
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lol complete bullshit,
AMD is having trouble getting a 3ghz model out the door, highly doubt they will get 4ghz not to mention it would require major architectual changes to K10.5 to achieve that

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Jeruselem 
28/8/08 5:02:01 PM
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The link has gone dead - looks like the web site pulled the article off-line.

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SceptreCore 
28/8/08 5:20:46 PM
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Quote by F117_Nighthawk
lol complete bullshit,
AMD is having trouble getting a 3ghz model out the door, highly doubt they will get 4ghz not to mention it would require major architectual changes to K10.5 to achieve that

Some have got the 9950 up to a 18* multi, what's to say that the deneb FX can't hit a 20 or 22* multiplier?

Perhaps the problem has been heat issues?

I also believe that they are taking the opportunity to make enhancements to the architecture on the new fab process. So this may very well be... true (I'll cross my fingers though)

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Jeruselem 
28/8/08 5:35:10 PM
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Let's hope it's real unless the FX-82 is a super-clocked 9950 with little OC left in it.

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F117_Nighthawk 
28/8/08 5:36:21 PM
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Heres an alt link:

http://www.techpowerup.com/69705/Phenom_FX_in_the_Works_AMD_to_take_Another_shot_at...Kentsfield.

The highest 9950 was at 4ghz but that was with liquid nitrogen,
there are some minor architectual changes but something like this with a 4ghz stock part is highly unlikely. Dont believe everything you read.

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nesquick 
28/8/08 6:04:53 PM
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there is no doubt about phenom FX coming back from the grave check these links to motherboards that support the new 45nm denebs
http://www.foxconnchannel.com/Product/Motherboard/Digitallife08/index_A79A-S.htm
http://www.asus.com.au/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=149&l3=591&l4=0&model=1930&model
sorry cbf finding more but proof is there :)

As to the clock speed I think if they can pull it off than bloody good on them with the rv770 doing so well it would look so good for the cpu division to come back from the ashes with something like this.



Edited by nesquick: 28/8/2008 06:05:33 PM

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F117_Nighthawk 
28/8/08 6:23:47 PM
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PhenomFX was actually meant to launch in January this year,
many motherboard manufacturors have had "Supports AMD Phenom, Phenom FX" etc. for a while now ;)

Where does it say support for Deneb?
PhenomFX isnt Deneb, though Deneb will have an FX processor.

If however AMD does pull this off it will be deja vu all over again,
AMD did exactly this with the launch of the Athlon 64, no one suspected it and they came out with guns firing and completely owned Intel.

Time / sources will tell though...

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SceptreCore 
28/8/08 7:38:56 PM
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Quote by F117_Nighthawk
PhenomFX was actually meant to launch in January this year,
many motherboard manufacturors have had "Supports AMD Phenom, Phenom FX" etc. for a while now ;)

Where does it say support for Deneb?
PhenomFX isnt Deneb, though Deneb will have an FX processor.

If however AMD does pull this off it will be deja vu all over again,
AMD did exactly this with the launch of the Athlon 64, no one suspected it and they came out with guns firing and completely owned Intel.

Time / sources will tell though...


Actually it's pretty much just ASUS and Foxconn atm. It is misleading what they are doing, and Im not sure if it's illegal, but seeing as the only Phenom FX's out there are these deneb FX engineering samples.

So seeing how there is now proof that these are out there and being CPU-Z'd it may mean that they are in the hands of motherboard manufacturer's and ASUS and foxconn have pre-emptively marketed their support for these processor's.

Possibly?

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F117_Nighthawk 
28/8/08 8:05:41 PM
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It doesnt say anywhere on the sites though that it supports 45nm, no doubt it will but its not listed. The name PhenomFX has been around since before the Phenom launch

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SceptreCore 
28/8/08 8:38:58 PM
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Quote by F117_Nighthawk
It doesnt say anywhere on the sites though that it supports 45nm, no doubt it will but its not listed. The name PhenomFX has been around since before the Phenom launch

I know that! But not until it's released will they do that I suppose. Do you remember when AM2+ first came out, and then ASUS put AM2+ support on nearly they're entire AM2 range. I think we will see something similar with the AM3 launch.

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Jeruselem 
28/8/08 11:31:57 PM
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I think this article might be a little more realistic in expectations
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20080828043213_AMD_s_First_45nm_Desktop_Microprocessors_




Edited by Jeruselem: 28/8/2008 11:32:18 PM

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SceptreCore 
31/8/08 2:52:21 PM
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Quote by Jeruselem
I think this article might be a little more realistic in expectations
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20080828043213_AMD_s_First_45nm_Desktop_Microprocessors_


That doesn't say anything about the Phenom FX-80 though

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nesquick 
31/8/08 4:38:50 PM
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Yea the FX line was always reserved for the absolute top dog amd chips much like the QX line so i wouldn't be surprised if these particular FX chips are binned for higher speeds or something like that.


Edited by nesquick: 31/8/2008 4:39:40 PM

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SceptreCore 
31/8/08 7:42:36 PM
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Quote by nesquick
Yea the FX line was always reserved for the absolute top dog amd chips much like the QX line so i wouldn't be surprised if these particular FX chips are binned for higher speeds or something like that.


Edited by nesquick: 31/8/2008 4:39:40 PM


Don't they use longer pipe lines or something to dramatically increase clock speeds? Like they did with netburst

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