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E6750/E6850 vs E7200
robzy 
13/8/08 9:08:42 PM
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So I currently have an E6300 in an 965P-S3 rev1.0 and want to upgrade CPUs.

Because my rev1.0 mobo doesn't support Wolfdale I have two choices.

1)
Buy an E7200 for $132
Buy a GA-EP45-DS3L for $132
Sell my 965P-S3 for $60(?)

Total cost: 204

2)
Buy an E6750/E6850 second hand for $130.

Total cost: $130?




Basically, what do I do? :P Is the 50% more cache + slightly updated motherboard worth the $70?

Rob.

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Cpt. Lock 
13/8/08 9:18:17 PM
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meh... you can get a Q6600 for $200, and overclock that to at least 3.2ghz just on stock volts the G0 stepping is pretty awesome and will work in a 65nm only board. I'd rather that then any of the above CPU's


Edited by Cpt. Lock: 13/8/2008 9:29:42 PM

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robzy 
13/8/08 9:33:48 PM
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I thought about the Q6600, but I don't like the idea of twice the heat output.

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Cpt. Lock 
13/8/08 9:40:47 PM
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Well with the board you've got and the money you're spending it's pretty much the best option and with a true or a tuniq tower the heat becomes a pretty much non issue. Even in a Micro-ATX case you'll struggle to hit 50 degrees with the stock cooler at 3.2ghz


Edited by Cpt. Lock: 13/8/2008 9:45:10 PM

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robzy 
13/8/08 9:52:17 PM
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You just had to make things complicated, didn't you? :P

Any one else care to weigh in on the debate?

Rob.

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Fat_Bodybuilder 
13/8/08 10:01:01 PM
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Quote by robzy
I thought about the Q6600, but I don't like the idea of twice the heat output.

Rob.



Where'd you get that idea from? They're hotter, but not double.

Also, if you're in Q6600 price range, get an E8400 or E8500, dual core > Quad core in today's computing world.

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nesquick 
13/8/08 10:03:56 PM
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e6850's are good overclockers, expect ~4ghz from one with good cooling

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TheFrunj 
13/8/08 10:08:23 PM
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If you've currently got the E6300, I suggest giving it a small OC and seeing if that helps alleviate the problem.

The only reason being is that Nehalem is on the horizon, and should be out relatively soon. So if you're gonna upgrade, I say wait for now.

An aftermarket cooler would be a good idea if you did want to push that CPU a bit, something like a Noctua NH-U12P would be really good for high clocks, otherwise anything that is better than the stock cooler will allow higher OC - just comes down to how much you want to spend.

The stock cooler should get you to at least 2.4GHz however, so give that a try first :)

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robzy 
13/8/08 10:14:51 PM
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Quote by Fat_Bodybuilder
Where'd you get that idea from? They're hotter, but not double.


Q6600 is as-near-as-makes-no-difference two 65W E6600's glued together. A quick gander on the interwebs, though, reveals its actual output is 95W, which is a 50% increase over an E6/E8.

Quote by Fat_Bodybuilder
Also, if you're in Q6600 price range, get an E8400 or E8500, dual core > Quad core in today's computing world.


E8500 is out of price range, E7200 is doable, but it will cost me $70 over the E6750. (Or equal with the Q6600)

Quote by nesquick
e6850's are good overclockers, expect ~4ghz from one with good cooling


Only stock cooling I'm afraid.

TheFrunj: Thing is I'm being given some money (along the lines of $250) from my parents to put towards a small upgrade. RAM is fine, GFX card is fine for what I use it for, which leaves me with CPU :P

I do a bit of DVD encoding, as well as virtual machines, which I guess would suggest the Q6600, but I think I'd prefer to trade off two cores in return for less heat output.

Rob.

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Cpt. Lock 
13/8/08 10:29:30 PM
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The G0 stepping Q6600 doesn't really get THAT hot if you're doing DVD decoding and running a few virtual machines the quad will give you a bit of head room. You might get a bit of a higher clock on the E6850 but for what you're doing especially with dvd encoding you'll get a bit out of the extra 2 cores


Edited by Cpt. Lock: 13/8/2008 10:34:10 PM

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robzy 
13/8/08 11:13:01 PM
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Okay, so I think you've convinced me of Q6600 over E6850 :P

[edit]: Well, kinda. Is the Q6600 worth the extra $70?

What about over the E7200 though? Which is it's price-cousin.

Rob.


Edited by robzy: 13/8/2008 11:55:36 PM

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MedicineBaby 
14/8/08 10:08:46 AM
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Why not an E8500 for $207. They are very good overclockers, and with a BIOS update I THINK you could support the E8500. I know that the new BIOS for my 965P-DS3P can support C0 stepping E8500 but not E0 stepping :S

I am a little wary to go out and buy an E8500, as I do not want to purchase an E0 stepping and find out that it does not work with my motherboard :(

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robzy 
14/8/08 1:09:47 PM
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Quote by MedicineBaby
Why not an E8500 for $207. They are very good overclockers, and with a BIOS update I THINK you could support the E8500.


Nope, every single thing I've read says that rev1.0 of my board does not support Wolfdale, even with BIOS updates.

Rob.

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robzy 
17/8/08 12:42:09 PM
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I still have no idea what CPU to get, Q6600 or E7200...

I was looking at the CPU graphs on Tomshardware and there just isn't that much difference...

Rob.

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nesquick 
17/8/08 4:15:35 PM
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q6600, problem solved.

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robzy 
17/8/08 4:54:10 PM
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Quote by nesquick
q6600, problem solved.


What's the logic behind that? :P

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neoprint 
17/8/08 5:02:44 PM
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Quote by robzy
I still have no idea what CPU to get, Q6600 or E7200...

I was looking at the CPU graphs on Tomshardware and there just isn't that much difference...

Rob.


FYI, e7200 is a wolfdale :)
http://www.legitreviews.com/images/reviews/690/intel_core2duo_e7200.jpg

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nesquick 
17/8/08 5:10:35 PM
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Quote by robzy
Quote by nesquick
q6600, problem solved.


What's the logic behind that? :P

Rob.


most users on atomic have q6600's so they must be semi alright :P

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c0nc0n 
17/8/08 7:57:16 PM
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Q6600 would be a better and a safer way to go. There is no confirmation whether the E7200 is a Wolfadle (someone might know) and the Q6600 is a Kentsfield. Plus the two extra cores is a great thing, once you've got quad, you can't go back :P

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nesquick 
17/8/08 8:03:37 PM
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i went back to dual core and loved it :P

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