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New near-35mm video "digital film" camera, 720p video @ 24 fps, fully compatible with Nikkor lenses
Athiril 
27/8/08 7:24:25 PM
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Nikon recently announced a new video camera.

3 inch LCD preview and view finder.

1280x720 progressive, 24 frames per second, digital film/cinema!

It's compatible with all current Nikkor lenses.

It has an internal mic to record mono audio, allowing you to use a clapper to easily sync up high quality audio in your NLE from another recording device.


Oh as an added bonus, it also shoots 12.3mp stills.

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/nikond90/

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LordBug 
27/8/08 9:08:39 PM
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I simply cannot believe how much negativity the D90 is receiving from the hardcore Canon camp. Do people care more about specs and abilities instead of the act of taking photos nowadays?

Simply incredible :(

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alai 
27/8/08 10:51:43 PM
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They are just jealous :P

Body for D90 is RRP $1549 I think

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Athiril 
27/8/08 11:55:28 PM
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Quote by LordBug
I simply cannot believe how much negativity the D90 is receiving from the hardcore Canon camp. Do people care more about specs and abilities instead of the act of taking photos nowadays?

Simply incredible :(



Im a hardcore Canon fan, but I would love a D90, it would so be the answer to my dreams of budget Cinematic video!

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Friml 
28/8/08 12:56:37 AM
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this is interesting.

i was gaffering a short film over the weekend and we were shooting on a 1080p camera with an attachment allowing us to mount nikon lenses. the camera retails for well over $10K, so if this camera allows people to shoot at 720p with F mount as standard under $1500, i could see this being used. particularly when shooting motion picture, it really is all about the lenses.

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Athiril 
28/8/08 1:24:13 AM
Titan

Id be tempted to buy too and IR-mod one of them...

Im def gonna have to get one of these if canon does not bring out a competing 'video' model (which they might not, because it might impact the Canon XL camera market), I hope they do, as nearly all my lenses cant be used on a Nikon (only one direct EOS mount, the 12-24mm).

Even with Nikon's crappy (lack of) support for metering with 'non-cpu' lenses in the Dxx range, thats no problem for video as you shoot manual anyway.

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komuso 
28/8/08 1:24:29 AM
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Fark. Hope Canon follows suit so I can use what lenses I have! This is cool.

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Athiril 
28/8/08 1:43:18 AM
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Depending on your lenses, I think we will be noticing threads on photo sites asking about which lenses are parafocal, or which lenses dont focus breathe :P

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The Tick 
28/8/08 8:33:28 AM
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Quote by LordBug
I simply cannot believe how much negativity the D90 is receiving from the hardcore Canon camp. Do people care more about specs and abilities instead of the act of taking photos nowadays?

Simply incredible :(



I think in the heart of most people when you see something new and presumably offering more come along you look at what you have and justify why the new thing isn't "all that". Most of us though are smart enough to realise that this feeling of justification shouldn't mean that you have to piss on the other product or person for having it.

Then there are the fanboys who go a brand and become brand loyal to the point of violence if someone questions them. These people can also be found following soccer clubs in the UK and beating up on people who support other teams.

I love what Nikon are doing. Smart punters who have invested in Canon equipment should be looking at this and hoping that Canon will leapfrog the D90 at some stage making a worthwhile case for body upgrade while keeping their lenses.

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orinjuse 
28/8/08 9:22:02 AM
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Quote by Athiril
Depending on your lenses, I think we will be noticing threads on photo sites asking about which lenses are parafocal, or which lenses dont focus breathe :P



Not that many, unfortunately. Still camera lenses are great for static shots, but try to do a zoom shot on them and it'll look crap. And hell, pro static lenses weigh enough already - have you hefted a good video lens? Ouch.

Still, this is a very interesting feature. I can see a definite use for this with my job. I've got a D80 that performs like a champ at the moment, though, so it would take these kind of features in a new D300 replacement to get me to upgrade.

It's an interesting feature for small uses of video. Anything serious, it wouldn't be up to snuff, but if you're a pro/semi-pro photographer who needs a little bit of HD video on the side, definitely cool.


Edited by orinjuse: 28/8/2008 9:22:24 AM

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stadl 
28/8/08 11:27:17 AM
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I don't know my way around video standards, but I noticed that it shoots video as motion-jpg with a 5 minute limitation on HD clips (20minutes on lower res)

Is this really going to be usable for most people that care about HD?

But it's a good feature to see coming in, and I think eventually will be very popular in the consumer ranges (D60/D90 and canon x000, xx0D and possibly x0D) with the sort of people who also like 18-200 lenses etc - the perfect travel and family outing kit would be DSLR controls and quality with the option to switch to video for short clips. Avoiding yet another reason froma DSLR user to own a P&S along for the small stuff.

Although one interesting this is where it draws the 1MP HD image from - does it go across most of the sensor, or is there the option to go "super crop" and pull it from the very middle, meaning a huge zoom option.

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^Faldo^ 
28/8/08 11:55:31 AM
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I was at the launch of this yesterday. It's a great little camera.

Because this is me, i'm only going to talk about the video.

MJPEG is an awesome codec, and although the firmware I was playing with wasn't finalised, it seemed that the bitrate was a little low.

It's definately several notches above the quality of your standard "movie" on an Ixus or coolpix. And yes, having Nikkor glass adds a world of difference. I can't tell you how good a 30mm prime looks in video mode.

It can't deal with LEDs in shot very well, but tungsten looks fantastic. And although the videos are suprisingly good (even on a 12 foot projector screen powered by a, erm, Barco -- so your mileage WILL vary in the not as good as what I saw direction) I'm not sure if I'd use it for films. You want to stick to progressive video capture at 25 fps and slow it down to 24 fps for that.

It's make a nice B-camera for behind the scenes stuff for DVD, especially since it'll do great stills and the video will look like a real 35mm camera, albeit at a visibly low bitrate. As the guy who demoed it pointed out, It'd also be great for DOPs and cameramen to preview what they think a shot should look like and show it to a director.

Because I don't have an SLR (only stupidly complex video cameras), this would be what I'd buy next if I didn't need a Redrock M2 adapter. And gradiated glass. And more lights. And gels. And a steadicam. And an HD-SDI capture card. And a crane.

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Mademan 
28/8/08 12:43:24 PM
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Athiril 
28/8/08 12:48:52 PM
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5 minutes is enough for film making.

No single take or scene would be that long.

I think Ive mentioned this.. but easily synced since it records mono audio to a good audio recording device with boom etc.

If Canon doesn't offer an equivalent, I'll be forced into getting this with a few lenses, as I need/want a video camera.

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^Faldo^ 
28/8/08 1:32:16 PM
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Recording time is not an issue.

I've worked on a set using 16mm film. You get 8 minutes per reel (i'm reasonably sure, anyway) and we went through two reels and layed down about 15 takes on each reel.

With digital, you get infinite reels.

-DAVE.

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LordBug 
28/8/08 2:23:41 PM
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Sample movies are available around the place:

On the D90 microsite - Most of these didn't want to load for me last night :/
http://chsvimg.nikon.com/products/imaging/lineup/d90/en/d-movie/

Promo-esque video from Chase Jarvis (Never heard of him before, but he must be a big name if he's a Hasselblad Master)
http://blog.chasejarvis.com/blog/2008/08/chase-jarvis-raw-advance-testing-nikon.html

Another video which might've been on the microsite, but as I mentioned, it wasn't entirely working for me:
http://www.vimeo.com/1612204?pg=embed&sec=1612204

The more I read about this little fellow, I more I like the sound of it. The movie mode really doesn't worry me - It'd be great fun to actually be able to play around with videos with proper control of DoF, but it's the still ability which interests me the most. Sounds like a solid little performer, especially at whatever price it'll end up being in AU (Goddamn DownUnder tax!)

I've been reading a few speculations that the 5D replacement will have video capability in it. That'll be very interesting to see.

Interesting times have just gotten more interesting :)

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Athiril 
28/8/08 6:48:27 PM
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5D with video? *drools*

As long as they dont try to cram too many megapixels into the 5D, i want the same or better noise performance, colour, dynamic range etc.

ill have to wait now..

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