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Worth Getting Kaspersky?
confined 
11/8/08 9:52:52 PM
Immortal

I'm thinking it's about time I installed some antivirus software and was wondering what everyone thinks of Kaspersky Internet Security 2008 V7.0.

I've heard really positive things about Kaspersky antivirus products and just want to make sure this falls under the same banner.

The cost is negligible so if you have any arguements against getting Kaspersky cost shouldn't be one of them. I don't mind paying as long as I am going to end up with a good product.

I've also heard good things about Bitdefender (I am currently using the web browser plugin to scan my computer), and so far I've found it much more effective than some other antivirus products, but I think I will be needing some real-time protection.

The only time I've used Kaspersky in the past was when I was using LANDesk's antivirus suite, which uses the Kaspersky engine. I found it to be very good but was over a year ago.

Cheers.


Edited by confined: 11/8/2008 09:54:45 PM

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tantryl 
11/8/08 10:10:29 PM
SuperHero
Immortal


Kaspersky's OK.

Any particular reason you're bothering with AV at all?

Viruses haven't really been a problem for about 4 years.

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CameronMcDonald 
11/8/08 10:44:38 PM
Serf

If you insist on getting an AV program, I'd recommend ESET's range - although Kaspersky is greater as far as detection is concerned, Eset's NOD32 is almost identical in detection performance and has a far smaller RAM footprint.

There was a PC Authority test a year or so back IIRC. Kaspersky won, but ESET came in a very narrow second. :)

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Midnighter 
11/8/08 11:01:29 PM
Immortal

So, why don't you just use Avast, etc?

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TheSecret 
11/8/08 11:01:57 PM
Primarch
Quote by tantryl
Kaspersky's OK.

Any particular reason you're bothering with AV at all?

Viruses haven't really been a problem for about 4 years.



What world have you been living in?

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tantryl 
11/8/08 11:25:24 PM
SuperHero
Immortal


Quote by TheSecret
Quote by tantryl
Kaspersky's OK.

Any particular reason you're bothering with AV at all?

Viruses haven't really been a problem for about 4 years.



What world have you been living in?



The home computer repair world. It's been my job for the last 6 years.

How 'bout you?


Edited by tantryl: 11/8/2008 11:28:36 PM

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confined 
12/8/08 12:34:01 AM
Immortal

Quote by tantryl
Kaspersky's OK.

Any particular reason you're bothering with AV at all?

Viruses haven't really been a problem for about 4 years.


Well I would be in the market for something with pretty decent all-round malware protection.

I haven't used any anti-malware software in at least 6 months now and according to the Bitdefender online scans I have done I haven't picked up anything. I've only found one thing in Spyware Doctor as well (I'm using a purchased copy of it).

Thinking about it - the only thing I ever scan are torrents and my portable drives, and even though I regularly transport data from heavily infected computers on my portable HDD and flash drive I'm generally careful/intelligent enough to avoid getting them infected.

EDIT: Although I do need some software for some family as I find myself cleaning the spyware off their PC once a month.


Quote by Midnighter
So, why don't you just use Avast, etc?



I was for a while there but I just couldn't stand the GUI. From what I have looked at tonight as well it seems Kaspersky is much better than avast!.

Oh and the guy talking to me all the time during movies, games and internet browsing drove me nuts. :P


Edited by confined: 12/8/2008 12:55:00 AM

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TheSecret 
12/8/08 2:32:49 AM
Primarch
Quote by tantryl
Quote by TheSecret
Quote by tantryl
Kaspersky's OK.

Any particular reason you're bothering with AV at all?

Viruses haven't really been a problem for about 4 years.



What world have you been living in?



The home computer repair world. It's been my job for the last 6 years.

How 'bout you?


Edited by tantryl: 11/8/2008 11:28:36 PM



The computer security field. Viruses are still a large problem for most users, I don't know how you can say otherwise.

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superfireydave 
12/8/08 5:28:08 AM
Titan

Quote by TheSecret
The computer security field. Viruses are still a large problem for most users, I don't know how you can say otherwise.


I do web dev as a jawb. I haven't had a virus on any number of machines I've got at home, even though 2 run completely sans protection.

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Invention 
12/8/08 9:05:09 AM
Primarch

Quote by tantryl
Quote by TheSecret
Quote by tantryl
Kaspersky's OK.

Any particular reason you're bothering with AV at all?

Viruses haven't really been a problem for about 4 years.



What world have you been living in?



The home computer repair world. It's been my job for the last 6 years.

How 'bout you?


Edited by tantryl: 11/8/2008 11:28:36 PM



My work does data recovery and pc servicing, and people are still getting viruses/trojans.

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TheSecret 
12/8/08 9:06:13 AM
Primarch
superfireydave,

That is because you have at least have some basic knowledge. (I say at least, I don't know what you know).

Many many client machines, still running XP or worse, still full of holes spyware and viruses and crap..., they are still very much a problem, which is a good thing for me. Perhaps they have gone down wormwise, since windows has a firewall by default etc, but they can still come over MSN, holes in IE, whatever.

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superfireydave 
12/8/08 10:21:10 AM
Titan

Oh sure, I don't go to stupid sites, or download stupid things, but that's what Tantryl was reffering to - confined is more than capable of avoiding the potential pitfalls of the webbernets (edit: as are most computer literate people).


Edited by superfireydave: 12/8/2008 10:21:49 AM

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tantryl 
12/8/08 10:34:13 AM
SuperHero
Immortal


Most of the big problems these days are malware, not viruses.

We haven't had a big virus since Sasser in 2004, whereas previous to that we had a big virus every 12-18 months.

People still obviously get some viruses, sure, I'm not saying they've been wiped out or anything ridiculous. But as both Secret and Dave have pointed out they're not particularly hard to avoid for someone like confined.

But it's been 4+ years since an epidemic and malware has well and truly taken the place as the major problem.


Edited by tantryl: 12/8/2008 10:37:49 AM

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Invention 
12/8/08 10:55:39 AM
Primarch

It depends on your definition of malware. To me malware is any software with malicious intent (MALicious softWARE). This includes viruses, trojans, worms, adware, spyware etc. And while viruses have certainly fallen off somewhat, we still get enough infected computers being brought in to warrant some form of software protection.

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TheSecret 
12/8/08 11:09:06 AM
Primarch
Just because there has not been a big epidemic virus in the style of sasser, does not mean they are not a problem, the problem is the multitude of smaller lesser known ones.

I never run a virus scanner myself, because I know what to look for, and am careful as I have to be. But a typical at home user, including most readers of atomic, don't have that experience, and would not know they were infected unless they did have an AV scanner.

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tantryl 
12/8/08 11:28:44 AM
SuperHero
Immortal


I disagree.

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confined 
12/8/08 11:37:52 AM
Immortal

Quote by Invention
It depends on your definition of malware. To me malware is any software with malicious intent (MALicious softWARE). This includes viruses, trojans, worms, adware, spyware etc.


That is also my definition of malware.

I saw what tantryl was getting at and I have to agree - I've probably done 150+ virus removals in the past year and a half and have maybe seen two viruses that whole time. My main concerns in my quest for a decent anti-malware suite are protection from spyware, adware, backdoors, trojans and keyloggers.

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tantryl 
12/8/08 12:02:27 PM
SuperHero
Immortal


For that I'd probably suggest either Spyware Doctor or SUPERAntiSpyware (horrible name, good program).

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Jeruselem 
12/8/08 12:06:26 PM
Guru

It's a lot better than the Norton/Symantec and McAfee product which gets pushed by some vendors.

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TheSecret 
12/8/08 12:31:39 PM
Primarch
Quote by tantryl
I disagree.



Then you don't know what you're talking about.

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