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The Things I Miss
PC FREAK 
29/8/08 4:20:12 PM
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The 5 things i miss on a windows based machine.

1. Right Click - OMG how i miss the right click.
2. Mount Network Drives - Theres gotta be a way but im yet to figure it out :P
3. mIRC - I know theres Colloquy but for people who idle in 2-3 servers with lots of channels open mIRC = awesome.
4. MSN - or rather offline messages
5. Office 2007

Having said that i love my mac book :D

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Slace 
29/8/08 9:11:50 PM
Hero
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1) Ctrl + Left click or if it's a touch pad 2 finger click or just buy a standard mouse
2) Finder -> Command + K -> smb://my_server/my_share
3) Yeah... I don't IRC so I can't help ya
4) Adium FTEW
5) Parallels/ VMWare + Windows (yeah, Office for Mac isn't as nice as Office 2007)

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_kapone_ 
29/8/08 9:18:47 PM
Champion

There will always be some things you 'miss' (you'll get over though, trust me). But as for the noted points.

1. CTRL-click, you get used to it quickly. Only real pain is VMs that don't interpret CTRL-click as a right-click. And if you get real desperate, if you plug in a mouse, right-click will work.

2. OSX is *nix based, mounting network drives has been around since year dot as far as that stuff is concerned. There's several ways to do it, but one of the simpler ways is in Finder click on the Go menu and select Connect to Server (or simply fruit-K).

3. I don't have a solution for you there. Doesn't mean that there isn't a like-for-like alternative, I just haven't used it. I used Colloquy for the first time recently and was actually happy with it, but that was the first IRC client I've used in years.

4. MSN does exist for OSX, but you might want to give Adium a go. It's the OSX version of Pidgin/GAIM, and has just had a recent release (which I haven't grabbed yet as I don't tend to IM much outside of work).

5. Office 2008 for Mac is the OSX version of Office 2007. Although it has the notable omission of VB support, but this may not be an issue for you.


Personally my biggest pain points (which I'm now over) was the window close/restore/minimize buttons being on the left instead of right, and closing the window not closing the program. Now I use keyboard shortcuts almost constantly so it's no issue at all.

Enjoy your new Mac!

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_kapone_ 
29/8/08 9:20:08 PM
Champion

Damn, Slace beat me to it. Took to long to type while watching Dexter!

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The Tick 
30/8/08 8:26:18 AM
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Quote by PC FREAK
The 5 things i miss on a windows based machine.

1. Right Click - OMG how i miss the right click.



If your using an external Apple mouse,

System preferences, keyboard and mouse, mouse. Enable the right click there on your external mouse.

If you plug in any non Apple mouse the right click works.

As has aready been stated, a two finger tap (as in use two fingers together) on the trackpad gives you right click.

Two finger trackpad scrolling ftw IMHO which kicks the shit out of Windows based trackpads for vertical scrolling.

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Cpt. Lock 
30/8/08 11:20:55 AM
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Why close windows when you've got expose?

As to the rest...

The right click is already there you just need to buy a 2 button mouse. Right click has always pretty much been a part of Mac OS it's just for the last 20 something years apple thought mice only had 1 button. The mighty mouse fixes this (kind of)

2. you can mount network shares just as easily, that's why there's a mount network shares or whatever it's called or just command + K

3. IRC is old I can't say I use it

4. Grab a copy of microsoft messenger for mac

http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/messenger/default.mspx

5. Office, well Mac Office is Mac Office, it's never been quite as good but neither are most Microsoft products for Mac, you either use it, or use an alternative such as open office.

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plebsmacker 
30/8/08 12:12:48 PM
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Adium shits all over messenger for mac, but still no offline support

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PC FREAK 
30/8/08 12:55:28 PM
Guru

thats the main issue i have with Adium. I use that current way to mount my network drive however have to do it everytime i turn on. no biggie i guess.

Ive pretty much worked out, work arounds for the things i miss. There just the things i miss/missed. :)

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Game Doesnt Support Wide Screens?
http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/forums.asp?s=2&c=26&t=21
Specs:
Mac Book | 4GB RAM :)

Slace 
30/8/08 5:47:17 PM
Hero
Titan


Quote by plebsmacker
Adium shits all over messenger for mac, but still no offline support



Correction - the offline messaging support is very primative but it is there.

If someone is 'appearing offline' and messages you you'll get the message and if you response in like 1 minute they'll get your message.
But as for checking your offline messages, yeah that doesn't exist.

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Cpt. Lock 
30/8/08 6:14:36 PM
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Quote by PC FREAK
thats the main issue i have with Adium. I use that current way to mount my network drive however have to do it everytime i turn on. no biggie i guess.

Ive pretty much worked out, work arounds for the things i miss. There just the things i miss/missed. :)



Well unless you want to permanently add something to your fstab then there's not a lot of other ways to mount shares in OS X

If that's the way you want to go this should help you out

http://www.google.com.au/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&chann


Edited by Cpt. Lock: 30/8/2008 6:19:30 PM

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TinBane 
30/8/08 6:21:58 PM
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Mount a network share at boot? Mount it up, open accounts control panel, add a login item, and select the network share. Make sure you have the username/password in the keychain, or don't mind typing it every time.

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Cpt. Lock 
30/8/08 6:23:00 PM
Banned

BAH! someone has to do it the simple way =P

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PC FREAK 
31/8/08 2:00:54 AM
Guru

Yah i stumbled upon that TinBane.

Was just wanting a more perm solution such as Windows Network drives as that method didnt seem that perm to me.

Although this could be due to my samba/mac os x sharing issue.

Thanks for the input guys.


Edited by PC FREAK: 31/8/2008 2:01:20 AM

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Game Doesnt Support Wide Screens?
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Specs:
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Cpt. Lock 
31/8/08 10:43:24 AM
Banned

like I said if you want it permanent edit your fstab and mount the share somewhere

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SquallStrife 
31/8/08 8:53:26 PM
Titan

For #3, I just use mIRC in VMware Fusion.

There's nothing quite like it.

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Cpt. Lock 
31/8/08 9:16:49 PM
Banned

Does something like cross over Mac, or Darwine work with MIRC?


Edited by Cpt. Lock: 31/8/2008 9:19:24 PM

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Linux_Inside V2 
31/8/08 9:42:20 PM
Immortal

Quote by Cpt. Lock
Does something like cross over Mac, or Darwine work with MIRC?



Works on Darwine


Edited by Linux_Inside V2: 31/8/2008 9:51:22 PM

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freespace 
31/8/08 10:00:58 PM
Hero
Titan


irssi via macports or just compiler. GUI IRC clients don't make sense.

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http://anonshare.pictorii.com - share files anonymously
http://dailydiscovery.b3ta.org - learn something new
its f reespace damn it!

zebra 
31/8/08 10:27:46 PM
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Titan


Just so you lot know, and so that everyone is aware of correct procedure.

1. /etc/fstab is deprecated under Mac OS X 10.5

2. launchd will override /etc/fstab directives no matter what, provided launchd is provided with the information to mount

3. Automounter is now used to place drive mounts into a mount point and have them mount "every login". We don't use fstab for this anymore, as it has dependencies on boot. Ergo - if your fstab contains invalid points, it cannot always complete sysinit - ergo, you can break your system through your own passion-fingers/stupid mistakes. Launchd automounter is "soft", ergo - it will time out gracefully.

4. RTFM men. From /etc/fstab on Mac OS X 10.5:

 
zebraMacbookPro-2:~ zebra$ cat /etc/fstab
IGNORE THIS FILE.
This file does nothing, contains no useful data, and might go away in
future releases. Do not depend on this file or its contents.


5. As some of you know, fstab doesn't even trigger in Mac OS X 10.6, as a safety design principle - as with Solaris, vfstab can "fail" safely. Apple got the hint and followed Sun's lead.

6. fstab is a bsd v4 throwback dudes. Don't use it, if you can avoid it. It's now a LESS UNIXy way to do things, than using netautofs or automounter framework. Read: be more unixy

Happy drive mounting.

z




Edited by zebra: 31/8/2008 10:31:18 PM

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TinBane 
1/9/08 9:46:47 AM
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Quote by PC FREAK
Yah i stumbled upon that TinBane.

Was just wanting a more perm solution such as Windows Network drives as that method didnt seem that perm to me.

Although this could be due to my samba/mac os x sharing issue.

Thanks for the input guys.


Edited by PC FREAK: 31/8/2008 2:01:20 AM



Err, it's very permanent, until you turn it off. Most likely your SMB issues are causing a timeout and it's not loading in the first place on boot, if it seems 'impermanent'. to you.

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