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Does Apple want more market share?
TheSecret 
19/8/08 12:34:28 AM
Overlord
I have been thinking, a lot of the benifits apple enjoys are partly a result of having a smaller market share. The loyal fanbase, stability through exclusivity, the "artistic/stylish" image...these sterotypical things. Do you think if apple had a biggermarket share, it might lose these things, which would then be counter productive?

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orinjuse 
19/8/08 12:39:21 AM
Hero
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It might lose some of its current marketing if it became more mainstream, but I'm sure they'd find a new angle. The security thing definitely degrades as it gets more popular.

Their main selling points, though, are stability, design and controlled hardware, none of which will change no matter what their market share.

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TheSecret 
19/8/08 12:52:29 AM
Overlord
I am wondering if one day they might have to break the controlled hardware aspect. If they lose against Psystar, then there will be a precedent for running OS X on whatever you want to run it on. Since OS X defines a large part of using a mac, people wouldnt need to buy the pricey hardware from apple..they would have to branch out somehow.

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zebra 
19/8/08 6:54:37 AM
SuperHero
Titan


Quote by TheSecret
I am wondering if one day they might have to break the controlled hardware aspect./quote]

I've also wondered the same thing - and moreover, IF it is allowed to happen, how will quality control be kept over the desktop experience?

z

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TheSecret 
19/8/08 8:42:12 AM
Overlord
Quote by zebra
Quote by TheSecret
I am wondering if one day they might have to break the controlled hardware aspect./quote]

I've also wondered the same thing - and moreover, IF it is allowed to happen, how will quality control be kept over the desktop experience?

z




I don't think it could..., I think if they became too popular, then clones would start happening, or at the least there would be demands for different hardware configurations and software support. Right now you can see the demand to run OS X on non apple hardware...this will only increase as they get more popular.

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Slace 
19/8/08 9:34:08 AM
Hero
Titan


I think that more of a worry for Apple would be them coming under closer scrutiny for monopolistic behavior like MS has enjoyed over recent years.

MS was raked over the coals for their bundled applications, but take a look at what you get pre-installed on any Apple bought these days. In built search, dictionary, web browser, video and audio players, movie makers, music makers, photo software, email, address books, calendars and the list goes on.

Am I the only one who sees the trend ;)

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The Fuzz damn you! 
19/8/08 10:17:17 AM
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Hero

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Quote by Slace
I think that more of a worry for Apple would be them coming under closer scrutiny for monopolistic behavior like MS has enjoyed over recent years.


This.

If Apple ever achieves anything even approaching market dominance, their current business practices would bury them. They'd need to change substantially.

That said, I don't think that Apple would have any real problem with the notion of being in Microsoft's place right now.


Edited by The Fuzz damn you!: 19/8/2008 10:17:46 AM

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bastard 
19/8/08 11:23:00 AM
Titan

It's a public company... so yes.

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zebra 
19/8/08 12:02:48 PM
SuperHero
Titan


Quote by The Fuzz damn you!
Quote by Slace
I think that more of a worry for Apple would be them coming under closer scrutiny for monopolistic behavior like MS has enjoyed over recent years.


This.

If Apple ever achieves anything even approaching market dominance, their current business practices would bury them. They'd need to change substantially.

That said, I don't think that Apple would have any real problem with the notion of being in Microsoft's place right now.


Edited by The Fuzz damn you!: 19/8/2008 10:17:46 AM



From an OS perspective, maybe. From a pure hardware sales perspectives (if we believe the market hype), they now outsell Dell laptops 2 to 1 in the states. Strange world.

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Linux_Inside V2 
19/8/08 12:58:11 PM
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Quote by zebra
they now outsell Dell laptops 2 to 1 in the states. Strange world.



a Steve Jobs quote from the '84 Shareholders meeting (Bob Dylan lyrics) applies here I think :D

Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won't come again
And don't speak too soon
For the wheel's still in spin
And there's no tellin' who
That it's namin'
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin'.

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Waltish 
19/8/08 3:25:48 PM
Hero
Titan


Quote by Slace
I think that more of a worry for Apple would be them coming under closer scrutiny for monopolistic behavior like MS has enjoyed over recent years.

MS was raked over the coals for their bundled applications, but take a look at what you get pre-installed on any Apple bought these days. In built search, dictionary, web browser, video and audio players, movie makers, music makers, photo software, email, address books, calendars and the list goes on.

Am I the only one who sees the trend ;)



Yes in Europe market dominance or even just being considered to have a major influence is a factor in the level of scrutiny, that's why so far apple have not had many problems there.

So what was ok before could seriously change for Apple if they get did get big enough to effect/manipulate the market with their size and practices.


Edited by Waltish: 19/8/2008 03:35:13 PM

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