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A hardware question for people who work in mac related stores
TinBane 
18/7/08 9:29:37 AM
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I'd recommend it for iMacs in a second. Not because they fail often, but because it's so damned cheap (relatively) for what you get.

You are entitled to onsite support because it's a desktop, which means they'll either fix the problem at your place, or take it in and drop it back.

The MBP I'm not sure about. Laptops in general seem to have a lot of failures due to 'operator error' (read: drinks or droppage) which wouldn't be covered, and in fact, could invalidate your warranty (effectively).

If you aren't the clumsy type, then go for it. Otherwise buy accidental insurance coverage for it.

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zephyr 
18/7/08 10:31:20 AM
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yeah, i noticed the iMac one was relatively cheap compared to MBP... which made me wonder if there were far more claims made on the MBPs, and therefore more likely to have something go wrong after the first 12 months.

When you say onsite support, does that extend beyond capital city metro areas? There is an apple reseller here in Launceston...

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TinBane 
18/7/08 11:48:13 AM
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I don't know. If there is a service centre within 50km, then definitely. You'd have to ask Apple.

EDIT: MBP is more prone to failure due to the fact that it's a mobile machine. It's more likely to be dropped (without external damage) and therefore it's likely that claims are made on laptops due to operator 'error', rather than actual physical failings, meaning more warranty claims and higher costs for Apple.


Edited by TinBane: 18/7/2008 1:53:44 PM

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superfireydave 
18/7/08 1:17:48 PM
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Quote by zephyr
Sorry, starting to drag this thread off topic. :-)


That's okay, it's all relevant.

Tinbane: Video editing at the moment, but moving to VIDEO EDITING in a years time =P

I'm still trying to figure out where the best video editing programs are :|
All the ones I've used are on mac (iMovie and Final Cut Pro) but I've no idea what industry standard is for bigger productions, and if there's a windows based on that's equiv or better (because a windows based machine is cheaper seeing as I can build and maintain it myself =P)

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TinBane 
18/7/08 1:52:27 PM
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Adobe has Premiere and After Effects.
Both apparently good products, both available on both windows and os x. I have an aversion to adobe products, and I've never tried these seriously, so I can't comment.

A bit of asking around yields these as good options:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Premiere_Pro

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Cut_Pro

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Composer

Personally (and I'm not a big video person with years of experience) from dealing with video editing customers, everyone loves the system THEY use. Either because they've had bad experiences with other packages, or because the package they use is suited to them, or they just know all the shortcuts/tricks.

As far as I can tell, they are all stable products that perform well, and are used by some pretty big players. You can't really go wrong. Premiere Pro (or whatever it's called now) is equivalent on both platforms, from talking to customers, and it comes down to the stability of the underlying system.

Some customers using premiere on windows recommend having a dedicated editing box, that never goes on the internet or has extraneous software installed. There are converts between all camps, so there is no real evidence to suggest one is any better than another.

What I would do, is get them demoed for you, so you can see how they work and have a play.

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Quazar 
21/7/08 2:00:07 PM
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Quote by zephyr
yeah, i noticed the iMac one was relatively cheap compared to MBP... which made me wonder if there were far more claims made on the MBPs, and therefore more likely to have something go wrong after the first 12 months.

When you say onsite support, does that extend beyond capital city metro areas? There is an apple reseller here in Launceston...



zephyr, it depends on where in lonny you are, we can arrange a pickup and delivery for you tho if needed. We prefer to work on machines here in the office.

Most MBP faults that I see have been caused by users. I had one which was 4 days old and champagne spilt over it, got right down into the unit. Having said that, it still functions, the screen had some 'water' damage but was usable.

superfireydave if you were to upgrade the hdd, I would have it installed where you purchase the iMac from. I would then put the original iMac hdd in an external enclosure and use it for time machine backups.


Edited by Quazar: 21/7/2008 2:15:17 PM fixed some spelling mistakes and answered original post


Edited by Quazar: 21/7/2008 2:17:40 PM

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