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G5 iMAC 20"
Waltish 
2/7/08 11:04:31 PM
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Saw a G5 iMAC 20" in action and thought,kewl now there is a sweet system, had a look around the net and they are at a gettable price ( well gettable if I scrape some dosh together ), and the 17" are even cheaper.

As they are second-hand or refurbs it would be good to know if the G5 iMACs have any major issues that would be good reasons for not getting one {:)

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zephyr 
3/7/08 9:01:14 AM
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i think that it's fairly safe to assume that if they're still running, they're ok. Most mac failures seem to happen early on in the life of the machine from what I've seen. I may be wrong though, maybe ask someone who fixes macs all day? ;-)

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TinBane 
3/7/08 10:15:51 AM
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The G5 iMacs are very good machines. Does it have the iSight? or not? (black square above screen for Camera).

They are single processor, they won't run snow-leopard, but we have one at work, and it's a tank. The only achilles heel they have, is that the earlier models were slightly prone to power supply issues, due to a dodgey batch from AC Bell.

The cost of a PSU replacement is under $100 new from Apple. We charge about $121 for labour, so it's hardly a machine write off if it does happen (unlike the power supply, logic board, processor issues the PowerMac G5s sometimes developed).

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Waltish 
3/7/08 11:55:59 AM
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The one I saw in action was a 20" 1.8ghz, I want a 2.1ghz 20" iSight as they are newer and faster.

?Tinbane I have seen some iSight 2.1ghz saying they had 2.5 gig of ram.. how did they manage this, I thought the iSight had only one slot for ram.

It is reassuring to hear they are robust {:)

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TinBane 
3/7/08 12:07:40 PM
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Just so you know, there were three 'periods' of G5 imac.

G5 imac
G5 imac ambient light sensor (sensor on the bottom)
G5 imac isight

In terms of RAM, the max is 2.5 GB
There is 512MB on the logic board and it's PC2-4200 (533Mhz) DDR2-SDRAM, so you can have one 2GB module.

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Waltish 
3/7/08 12:32:46 PM
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Quote by TinBane
Just so you know, there were three 'periods' of G5 imac.

G5 imac
G5 imac ambient light sensor (sensor on the bottom)
G5 imac isight

In terms of RAM, the max is 2.5 GB
There is 512MB on the logic board and it's PC2-4200 (533Mhz) DDR2-SDRAM, so you can have one 2GB module.



I have been digging around, the more I find out the more I like the G5 iMACs, I am scraping up the dosh and will go ahead with the getting of one.

Thanks Tinbane much apreciated.


Edited by Waltish: 3/7/2008 12:35:41 PM

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Vanne 
5/7/08 11:48:25 AM
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mate, get a 20inch one. weve had both, (my gf) and the 20inch is lots nicer. both have been supurb in regards to stability/reliability. :) 3 thumbs up.
:)
If your going to grab one as your only box, id be grabbing a core 2 duo model, as you can run winslows on it too for a few games :)


Edited by Vanne: 5/7/2008 11:49:26 AM

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Waltish 
5/7/08 3:04:41 PM
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Quote by Vanne
mate, get a 20inch one. weve had both, (my gf) and the 20inch is lots nicer. both have been supurb in regards to stability/reliability. :) 3 thumbs up.
:)
If your going to grab one as your only box, id be grabbing a core 2 duo model, as you can run winslows on it too for a few games :)


Edited by Vanne: 5/7/2008 11:49:26 AM


I have a PS3 dualboot Yellow Dog Linux 6.0.
G5 can be cheaper than the intel ones and I want to dualboot Yellow Dog Linux 6.0 and have a play with Linux on it.

I will more than Likely get the 20" iSight G5 with 2.5 gig ram & 2.1 ghz PPC 970FX cpu.
I am happy to game on the PS3 that's what enabled me to get a cheaper platform for experimenting with my other computing.

I will keep my lappy running XP pro as a failsafe .. its easy to restore, I am familiar with its workings and its not that old a machine.

But if the lappy dies down the track I may not replace it.

cheers Vanne {:))

PS: Tin Bane does your workshop have a net presence? If so Can you give me a link please {:))


Edited by Waltish: 5/7/2008 3:08:59 PM

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iain671 
5/7/08 9:21:25 PM
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Personally, as the owner of a G5 iSight 17" - my advice is this:

Spend a little extra, and get an Intel Mac.

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Waltish 
5/7/08 10:07:20 PM
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Quote by iain671
Personally, as the owner of a G5 iSight 17" - my advice is this:

Spend a little extra, and get an Intel Mac.



Yah the intel ones are newer and gruntier, but its more than a little extra, A 20" G5 2.1ghz can be had for less than a grand if you look around a bit.
w


Edited by Waltish: 6/7/2008 1:00:17 AM

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iain671 
6/7/08 10:10:44 AM
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Forget I posted then.

Your money. Shoot yourself in the foot if you wish.

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Waltish 
6/7/08 3:18:08 PM
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Quote by iain671
Forget I posted then.

Your money. Shoot yourself in the foot if you wish.



Relax guy,I just have different needs and resources to you,
If I had the dosh I would go a 24" 3.06 ghz Core two duo iMAC but as we all know poverty sucks, so I have to make my decisions based on my needs/wants and the reality of my resources.
I already have YDL 6.0 installed on my PS3, so dual booting it on my soon to be main computer as well will help me learn it better.

The PS3 is a good gaming system and I am happy to do all my gaming on it, so I don't feel the need to pay for gaming capability on my computer, and YDL 6.0 will install on the PPC based G5 Imacs and have no issues apart from not supporting the iSight models (who cares) built in camera.

Not to mention the PPC 970FX CPU performs much better than its clock speed would suggest.

The fact that I can get a 20" screen and more than double the performance of my 15" $1,300.00 laptop for 2/3rds the money is a significant factor in my choice.

Here this is worth a look at

http://www.evl.uic.edu/julian/cs466/rep_g5.pdf
{:)


Edited by Waltish: 6/7/2008 10:34:59 PM

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wilsontc 
7/7/08 10:49:50 AM
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I would have to agree with iain671.

Just buy a second hand 20". I'm sure you can get them for just a couple of hundred more, and it's muuuuch more future proof.

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Waltish 
7/7/08 2:31:31 PM
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You just guessing wilsontc have a look at the price difference, and as I have said its not just the price I actually do want to run YDL 6.0 on a PowerPC cpu.

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Vanne 
7/7/08 3:25:12 PM
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ohkay, he wants to boot Yellowdog.
Sweet.

Oh, man, just one other thing, search around for the latest 20 inch G5 model mate, the iSight is handy and its on a 700mhz bus. I must admit, if all iam doing is surfing and mail, ripping and other non gaming crap, i just turn on my GF's mac, its sooo much nicer for that kind of stuff.. only thing my XP box gets used for is gaming these days.

:)

good luck with it Walt

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Waltish 
7/7/08 3:39:38 PM
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I have no Idea what OSX is about, The part owner and manager of the local ISP said Haa don't bother dual booting after a bit you will just use the easy one and not use the YDL at all.
But yah it is quite possible I will like OSX more..Only one way to find out.{:)

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noobmelater 
8/7/08 6:23:40 PM
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keep in mind that you won't be able to run the latest version of OS X on PPC hardware

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Waltish 
8/7/08 11:20:44 PM
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You are correct Snow Leopard is Intel only.
I would be hoping that it would come with something installed and a recovery disc, but most of the ex lease stuff I have looked at has an OSX installed but no disc supplied.
w

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noobmelater 
8/7/08 11:27:23 PM
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It's more reason to buy a newer intel Mac. The first few revisions of iMacs/Mac Minia will have come down in price a fair way. I know you can buy an intel Mac Mini for next to nothing. Put it this way you're not really gonna get much more performance either way.

If you want something unusual to install *nix on then it might be something half worth looking at, but if you want a Mac I would seriously be looking at an Intel Mac i've seen Intel Mac Minis for as little as $500 on ebay


Edited by noobmelater: 8/7/2008 11:35:52 PM

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Waltish 
9/7/08 12:32:09 AM
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If I get an Intel based one, I wont be able to install YDL 6.0 and really a 2.1 ghz PPC 970fx is plenty fast enough for non gaming activity.

Its only one core but it has some nifty internal parallel stuff going on and vector stuff and .... its enough to do what I want and wont cost much for what I will get {:))

Look 20" screen $799.00
http://ittools.com.au/index.php/cPath/86

Buy a mini and its not only puny but I have to buy a screen as well.

I already have a puny Lappy that wont run YDL 6.0, why buy another puny machine that wont run YDL 6.0.
{:))




Edited by Waltish: 9/7/2008 12:40:46 AM

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