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Hackintosh - Guide
Slace 
17/4/08 8:46:34 AM
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Quote by The_Hawk
Quote by Slace
I'd be interested, but I'm pretty sure it's illegal to run OS X in a virtual machine... except of Leopard Server which must be run virtually on an OS X server.



Try and find a VM solution for OS X...

I'd love to be able to load up Leopard in a VM on my PC so I can test things and play with settings without screwing up my wife's Macbook. Sadly I can't :(



http://blogs.vmware.com/vmtn/2008/01/virtual-leopa-1.html
That's as close as you can legally get to run OS X

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The_Hawk 
17/4/08 1:02:06 PM
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Yeah, but I want OS X in a VM on a PC, so no soup for me :(

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SquallStrife 
24/4/08 11:42:44 AM
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Quote by Ulrik100
Quote by SquallStrife
P965 chipsets are good too.

I should know, I'm posting from OSX! ;)



What are you using for sound?

onboard or PCI?



Onboard, with 7.1 channel support. (I'm only using stereo headphones, but it's nice to know it's there! :)

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NaNO3 
26/5/08 2:15:27 PM
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Quote by TinBane
I was wondering if there would be much interest in me posting a guide to virtualising os x. I'd primarily be dealing with running in a virtualised environment, however it would translate into running on some hardware anyway.

Obviously it's more as a challenge, and to learn a lot about how os x works, rather than as a replacement for buying a macintosh, however you can get virtualisation/a proper install to work with 90% of the features of os x.



it is more of a challenge. however, with a proper hackintosh install (requires only a few modified .kexts and files nowdays) you can be fortunate like myself and have a 99.99% working 10.5.2 hackintosh.

you can get multiple graphics cards with QE/CI, system sleep and vanilla kernel if you are persistent/know what you are doing.

The 0.01% not working thing would be the potential to nuke your install if you don't take the necessary precautions prior to any system modification such as running software update.

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wilsontc 
27/5/08 8:08:18 PM
Guru

Well I'm using 10.5.2 on my machine, which is essentially a first gen Intel iMac in terms of the internal components.

I have dual monitors working fine, ZFS with RAIDz for my main data...it's all good!

If anyone wants some tips, feel free to PM me.

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PC FREAK 
29/5/08 6:06:52 PM
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X38 chipsets, 975X chipsets work well.

TinBane i was gonna post a guide too but the EULA made me think that my post would get locked.

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TinBane 
29/5/08 6:14:56 PM
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Yeah. I agree :)

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Fillyfakeout 
29/5/08 7:47:00 PM
Initiate

OSX in a VM can work... to a point, but it'll never be brilliant. There are of course no vmware tools. I've found the old 10.4.6 rls to be most compatible.

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TheSecret 
3/6/08 5:17:30 PM
Initiate
There is an important distinction here.

While installing OS X is againt the EULA, it is certianly not a contract, and very probably not legally enforceable.

You can not read the terms and conditions on the box before making your purchase, leaving you vulnerable to stipulations that were unknown to you at the time of purchase.

Apple would never try to legally enforce this particular clause in their EULA, because they would lose, and lose protection they currenty have from it, that is people being scared and blindly believing it.

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robzy 
5/6/08 2:42:01 AM
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Quote by TheSecret
While installing OS X is againt the EULA, it is certianly not a contract, and very probably not legally enforceable.

You can not read the terms and conditions on the box before making your purchase, leaving you vulnerable to stipulations that were unknown to you at the time of purchase.


"IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO THE TERMS OF THE LICENSE, YOU MAY RETURN THE APPLE SOFTWARE TO THE PLACE WHERE YOU OBTAINED IT FOR A REFUND."
http://images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/macosx104.pdf

Rob.


Edited by robzy: 5/6/2008 02:42:10 AM

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TheSecret 
5/6/08 11:02:38 AM
Initiate
Robzy,

That does not contradict a thing I said. The terms are already invalid by the time you have bought it, and it is the country's fair trading laws that decide if you can get a refund, not the EULA.

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PC FREAK 
4/7/08 1:28:19 AM
Guru

Just to bump an old thread, i was reading a thread the other day that the way that the EULAs stated that if you where to put a mac sticker on the laptop then it wouldnt be illegal.

Of course it isnt really but still...

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TheSecret 
5/7/08 9:09:23 PM
Disciple
That is because the EULA is able to be interpreted in that way.

As it is not legally binding, it would not go to court anyway, so it would be pointless in any event.

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Waltish 
6/7/08 12:57:25 AM
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Quote by TinBane
Except doesn't that code rely on open source code, therefore it's fine to modify it. Technically, shouldn't apple supply the source on request?


I think its based on nix not nux so I don't know how open the license for the source code is.
w

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TheSecret 
6/7/08 2:14:15 AM
Disciple
The darwin source is available, the proprietary stuff is not, and likely never will be.

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dtcampbell 
9/9/08 6:39:10 AM
Serf
Hey everyone. I am currently trying to install Leopard on my Dell Latitude D630 machine.
After finally getting the ISO I have ran into some problems.
When booting off the CD it says
"Loading Darwin /x86"
Once the loading has completed i get to the apple screen and then immediately i get a message"
Please restart your computer. Press the power button for 7 seconds or hit the reset button.
If i do that, it will just boot into Windows XP normally.
Any suggestions would be great.

Thanks

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Linux_Inside V2 
9/9/08 11:45:31 AM
Immortal

Quote by Waltish
Quote by TinBane
Except doesn't that code rely on open source code, therefore it's fine to modify it. Technically, shouldn't apple supply the source on request?


I think its based on nix not nux so I don't know how open the license for the source code is.
w



Yeah the tools and base are all FreeBSD based.

Good luck getting apple to give you the source for Aqua or anything like that - the GUI and other proprietary things would be completely in-house developed

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