Splash
14/6/07 12:22:22 PM
Overlord
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Anyone know the difference between the above
Am using Vista Home Premium 32 now and the default action if you click the Start-Power button is sleep
The start up is faster from sleep but is it really safe to transport the system in this state?
Am I more vulnerable to HDD damage, etc?
Haven't tried Hibernate - I think Vista doesn't work well with Hibernate - True or False?
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L337Z1LL4
14/6/07 1:26:59 PM
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I use hibernate frequently with Vista on my laptop with the occasionaly fresh reboot.
Hibernate basically stores an image of your current running state and then powers off. When you start the system up again it restores this image so it's just as though the system has still been running.
The only problem you would have with hibernate is if somehow the data corrupted when hibernating resulting in having to fresh boot, therefore it's always best to save any open documents before hibernating.
Hibernating is also good for laptops when the battery almost fully depletes so that you don't lose work. -----
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Splash
14/6/07 10:14:03 PM
Overlord
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I know hibernate is a 'snapshot' shutdown that stores the ram and system state to HDD
But sleep only suspends everything to ram and continues to draw some power to keep the ram going
But is it safe to carry th system around in this state
Are the HDD heads parked, etc
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chrisbrownie
15/6/07 9:17:45 PM
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Let me structure it a little.
Shut Down:
Close all running programs and end the session.
Doesn't draw any power.
Safe to transport.
Hibernate:
Take a dump of the RAM and put it in a .sys file in C:
Doesn't draw any power.
Safe to transport.
StandBy:
Keep data in RAM. Shut down all possible hardware, including monitors, NICs, VGA etc. Also assuming you use S3 mode, rather than S1, your CPU and fans turn off as well.
Draw's power to keep data in RAM
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LordBug
15/6/07 11:29:20 PM
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Whenever I'm dealing with laptops, I use sleep as much as I can.
As chrisbrownie pointed out, sleep shuts down everything, unecessary.
Hence, no moving parts. And hence, safe to move. High speed startup, yes please. Maintaining of previously assigned IP addresses and the like, perfect for what I'd been doing. And considering the last lappy I had access to could survive on sleep for well over the weekends when I was away.
I dropped that laptop a few times (Accidentally). It was in sleep, sustained no internal damage (Can't say the same for the screen though, boss was no impressed).
Sleep is the best mode, in my opinion. -----
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Apoptosis
18/6/07 11:27:22 AM
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Something I found out the hard way:
Dont hibernate your laptop, then come home after buying more RAM for it and install it without restarting and shutting down correctly before hand. Damn flakey memory (in my head).
Computer has quite a bit of trouble booting, then tells you the hibernation image is useless and you need to delete it before you can do anything else. Goodbye anything you had open :P -----
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wilsontc
18/6/07 5:20:44 PM
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Quote by Apoptosis
Something I found out the hard way:
Dont hibernate your laptop, then come home after buying more RAM for it and install it without restarting and shutting down correctly before hand. Damn flakey memory (in my head).
Computer has quite a bit of trouble booting, then tells you the hibernation image is useless and you need to delete it before you can do anything else. Goodbye anything you had open :P
Would you put memory into a live, running system? No? Then why would you do it to a hibernated system?! -----
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Apoptosis
18/6/07 8:01:39 PM
Champion
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Quote by wilsontc
Quote by Apoptosis
Something I found out the hard way:
Dont hibernate your laptop, then come home after buying more RAM for it and install it without restarting and shutting down correctly before hand. Damn flakey memory (in my head).
Computer has quite a bit of trouble booting, then tells you the hibernation image is useless and you need to delete it before you can do anything else. Goodbye anything you had open :P
Would you put memory into a live, running system? No? Then why would you do it to a hibernated system?!
Because the system isn't live or running. It's 100% turned off. The contents of the ram are just stored on the hdd. It was no problem - just had to get rid of my hibernated data. -----
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wilsontc
19/6/07 1:50:20 PM
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Quote by Apoptosis
Quote by wilsontc
Quote by Apoptosis
Something I found out the hard way:
Dont hibernate your laptop, then come home after buying more RAM for it and install it without restarting and shutting down correctly before hand. Damn flakey memory (in my head).
Computer has quite a bit of trouble booting, then tells you the hibernation image is useless and you need to delete it before you can do anything else. Goodbye anything you had open :P
Would you put memory into a live, running system? No? Then why would you do it to a hibernated system?!
Because the system isn't live or running. It's 100% turned off. The contents of the ram are just stored on the hdd. It was no problem - just had to get rid of my hibernated data.
The whole point of hibernation is that the computer doesn't realise it's been turned off. It has the effect of just pausing the environment, the way you suspend a VM or whatever. So the computer things you've just put it in while it's running. -----
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Apoptosis
19/6/07 2:58:51 PM
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Listen, it isn't as bad as you make out. Otherwise my data should be corrupt etc. Worked fine upon windows saying 'hey we need to delete you hibernation data and start as per usual. Savvy?"
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wilsontc
19/6/07 5:37:17 PM
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Quote by Apoptosis
Listen, it isn't as bad as you make out. Otherwise my data should be corrupt etc. Worked fine upon windows saying 'hey we need to delete you hibernation data and start as per usual. Savvy?"
Well, as long as nothing went wrong :) -----
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Splash
24/6/07 3:31:56 PM
Overlord
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I have found that when put into 'sleep' for transport from home to work my lappie some peripherals won't operate properly when I wake up
Particularly my all-in-one printer scanner. Seems to want to go through a restart for it to work properly
It's only a few seconds difference so I think I will just shut down regularly
Cheers for the solid replies though :) -----
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