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tantryl 
18/7/08 6:27:03 PM
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I'm going to need a sub-notebook some time soon.

Requirements:
- Decent monitor resolution. Size not that important, but a decent 600 pixel height would be a minimum.
- Windows XP compatible. Doesn't need to come with a license as I have spares, but needs to have available drivers.
- Decent sized keyboard. I've tried the eeePC 70x and the keyboard is just too small. I haven't had a go on a HP Mini-note or a eeepc901 but I'm guessing that size is good enough.
- Easily upgradeable to 1.5GB (or 2GB) RAM.
- Regular 2.5" 9.5mm HDD, easily upgradeable, size relatively unimportant.
- Preferably under 1kg, but I guess I'd be willing to push up to 1.3kg if necessary.
- Good travel accessories readily available, including a nice small compact regular AC/DC adapter.
- Prefer Atom CPU but not necessary.
- Bare minimum 3hr battery life under general use, preferably over 4hr

At the moment the main competitors appear to be the HP Mini 2133, Acer Aspire One (unreleased Windows version), Asus eeePC 901 12G and the MSI Wind U100.

The HP Mini 2133 can be had in WA for around $850 with Vista. But for the C7 CPU, weight and battery life it doesn't seem worth the price. It's biggest advantage would appear to be the WXGA screen. It only comes with the 3-cell though, which is only 2hrs and the upgrade to 6-cell adds another $150 which puts it up at a $1k buy. Expensive for a subnotebook.

Acer Aspire One 80G looks perfect on paper and in pictures. It's 8GB version is well priced (sub-$500) and you'd expect the 80GB version to be around $600ish. However only the 512MB/8G version is available and it's got those 512M/8G bits and pieces soldered in. No upgrades. Doesn't bode well to the 80G version.

The eeePC 901 20G is almost everything I want at $600, but it's hard to find in WA and the one place that stocks it has a 1-2 week ETA on it. The main thing missing is the HDD. It's pretty much the same as the Acer Aspire One 8G but with upgradeable RAM & HDD, none of that solder crap. But the lack of the HDD bugs me. Battery life is good, size and screen are good... does anyone know if you can upgrade from the SSD HDD to a regular one easily?

The MSI Wind U100 I can get for around $650... but not until stock arrives which could be weeks, and only with the 3-cell battery not the 6-cell I'd want. Accessories seem sparse. Everything else seems perfect, if a little on the heavy side.

At the moment I'm leaning toward the eeePC, in large part due to it's default 6-cell 4-8hr battery. I don't like waiting 1-2 weeks, especially since I know how often that the real ETA is often 1-3 months in these situations. But it looks like the best balance I'm going to get.

Opinions? Other options I haven't considered? Buttsecks?


Edited by tantryl: 18/7/2008 6:27:37 PM

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Mordain 
18/7/08 6:28:56 PM
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I got one of the old 7" eeepc's the day they arrived and I've NEVER had a problem with it. They are beautifully designed and the asus support can't be beaten. I really recommend you go with the new eeepc regardless of the fact it will make me hate you for having one when I don't =)

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H!-OcTaN3 
19/7/08 6:05:57 PM
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What about the eeepc 1000h, H stands for hdd not solid state like the 901. plus its 1.6 and 80gb hard drive at around $698 from jbhifi werribee...

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tantryl 
19/7/08 6:31:44 PM
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They're out? I thought they weren't coming for at least a couple of months so didn't bother including it. Hmmm. On the phone waiting to see if there's any stock at my local as I'm posting.

I went down to a Harris Tech today to get a feel for the keyboard on the Mini-Note 2133. Good, can type at full speed on it without too much drama, far better than the Asus 70x series I've tried.

I also tried out a Sony Vaio 1.2kg model... it was great. But it was $3,600.

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tantryl 
19/7/08 7:16:16 PM
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So... now I have an Asus eeePC 1000H.

Thanks H!-OcTaN3!

*EDIT* So far it's been great. Fast, good sized keyboard, good sized screen, battery life looks great (around 6hrs for the type of activity it'll be used for).

Might upgrade the HDD but for what it'll be used for that doesn't seem necessary. Got the Momentus 5400.3 80GB drive. Doesn't even look like upgrading the 1GB of RAM is necessary. Sweet.

*EDIT* I think once the 500GB 2.5" 9.5mm drives get down to around $120ish I'll throw one of them in. Which will probably be a year or two. So this'll be fine for now.

*EDIT* Hmm, that 5hr battery life estimate looks to be incorrect, throw off by the installation and copying of crap over to the notebook.

It'll be more like 7hrs. Sweet.


Edited by tantryl: 20/7/2008 12:39:20 AM

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lunchbox1988 
21/7/08 9:25:11 AM
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Nice, I want me one of them.

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tantryl 
21/7/08 10:56:40 AM
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Yeah, I made both my gadget loving almost-brother-in-law and even my technology confused and bewildered father want to rush out and buy one yesterday :P

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know what the fastest 95mm drive out there is?

And more importantly, any complete review/guides out there for tearing this sucker apart? Google has failed me, and I prefer to know what to expect before I crack her open.

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The_Hawk 
14/8/08 10:14:58 PM
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I have the HP mini note, screen is awesome, battery life sucks at 1.5hrs or so. Looking at a the 6 cell battery to up that to 3hrs or so. Otherwise I'm pretty happy with it so far, even Vista isn't half bad on it.

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superfireydave 
15/8/08 10:28:52 AM
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An more upmarket choice would be the macbook.
With bootcamp it's easy to install windows on them, and the hardware in them is fairly good for such a small laptop.
So you've already bought a laptop
I fail :<
But they're nice ftr =P more expensive than most of the other things mentioned here unfortunately QQ


Edited by superfireydave: 15/8/2008 10:29:42 AM

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tantryl 
15/8/08 12:56:17 PM
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Yeah, there was somewhere between zero and no chance of me spending $2,500-$3,500 for the MacBook Air.


Edited by tantryl: 15/8/2008 12:56:22 PM

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stadl 
15/8/08 3:01:33 PM
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I also wouldn't lump the macbooks with 13" screens in the same category as subnotebook. 11" and smaller would be the requirement IMO.

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superfireydave 
15/8/08 5:34:25 PM
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Quote by tantryl
Yeah, there was somewhere between zero and no chance of me spending $2,500-$3,500 for the MacBook Air.


Edited by tantryl: 15/8/2008 12:56:22 PM


macbook, not macbook air -_-
~1500

Quote by stadl
I also wouldn't lump the macbooks with 13" screens in the same category as subnotebook. 11" and smaller would be the requirement IMO.


Perhaps. The lowest size screen I'd use on a notebook would be 15" though or so I guess that's why I mentioned them =P


Edited by superfireydave: 15/8/2008 05:35:29 PM

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maxamatosis 
15/8/08 5:47:41 PM
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I bought an old Thinkpad X40 from eBay for $300 which fits all those categories except for having a 1.8" Hard Drive which is more expensive to upgrade.

12" Screen 1024x768, 1.1kgs, small AC adaptor, keyboard is smaller than a normal one but much nicer than the eeepc ones, 1.2GHz Pentium M is plenty beefy, availble in versions with newer cores and up to 1.8GHz. XP Pro as standard.

Haven't tested the battery yet but new batteries are supposed to last 4hrs plus under light use, and they're not too expensive to buy.

Bought it after reading this article on PC Authority: http://www.pcauthority.com.au/Feature/118366,old-school-ultraportables-the-good-the-bad--the-ugly

More options there to consider too.

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tantryl 
15/8/08 9:28:09 PM
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Quote by superfireydave
Quote by tantryl
Yeah, there was somewhere between zero and no chance of me spending $2,500-$3,500 for the MacBook Air.


macbook, not macbook air -_-
~1500



So 2.5kg-ish? Well then I would have used my Dell 640m with the 12 cell battery.

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Jeruselem 
16/8/08 12:24:01 AM
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What about the new ASUS S101 (it's actually an EEE on steroids)?

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tantryl 
16/8/08 8:40:20 AM
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Quote by Jeruselem
What about the new ASUS S101 (it's actually an EEE on steroids)?



Looks almost identical to a 1000H but with an SSD HDD...

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800_series 
16/8/08 11:16:34 PM
Titan

I also want me one of those you got, tantryl.

Would probably be good for taking notes and stuff at uni, yes?

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tantryl 
17/8/08 10:35:09 AM
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Yes it is.

Although hopeless in classes that require mathematical notation. Not because it can't do mathematical notion, but because I don't know all the mathematical notion keyboard shortcuts and have no idea what symbols will be used that day.

It's also good for downloading the recorded lectures and listening to them later.

And for playing Poker when you're bored.

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@~thehung 
17/8/08 6:56:12 PM
Guru


S101 ?

0_o

what fresh hell is this?

*googles*

"Be sure to check back on T3.com for regular updates as we follow ASUS' strange attempts to destroy its most successful brand ever within a year." LOL

www.t3.com/news/new-asus-s101-eee-pc-unveiled-and-its-brown?=36349

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MrInsaneBuff 
18/8/08 3:41:16 PM
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You made the right choice. As to where to find info about cracking them open http://forum.eeeuser.com/ anything you could want to know about the EEE's can be found here.

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