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16 gig usb stick woes
scruffy1 
1/8/08 10:39:17 PM
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got 2 new usb sticks, both fat32 formatted (and re-formatted)

using xp home sp2 on my sig rig, and sp3 on a p4 2.8ghz, and i find that copying files goes weird after around 3.something gig

folders are copied, but appear empty after i saw the files "moved", many appear normal, but i am limited to incomplete use of the device(s)
some files have names in non-asci text and claim to be bigger than several gigabytes.... wtf ???

is this a windoze "feature" ?

helpful suggestions please

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The Fuzz damn you! 
1/8/08 10:43:02 PM
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Cheap-arse memory sticks off ebay?

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scruffy1 
1/8/08 11:37:53 PM
Primarch

no

cheap arse memory sticks from a friend who is importing them along with a host of other equipment (including ecg machines and ultrasounds)

but cheap arse by personal favour rather than e-bay junk

windoze xp and os-x can see 'em as 16 gig, but large files or folders and they lose the plot

i'm starting to smell the earthy aroma of "windoze experience" on this one

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Harmonic Cacophony 
1/8/08 11:46:08 PM
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I remember someone at a LAN had random files showing up as TBs in size, maybe it's a similar thing?

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The Fuzz damn you! 
2/8/08 9:04:17 AM
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Quote by scruffy1
no

cheap arse memory sticks from a friend who is importing them along with a host of other equipment (including ecg machines and ultrasounds)

but cheap arse by personal favour rather than e-bay junk


Cheap-arse is cheap-arse. I'd be blaming the memory sticks before I went and blamed the operating systems.

http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/article.asp?CIID=105823

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Jeruselem 
2/8/08 10:32:38 AM
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Sounds like the same old hacked low capacity sticks with modification to make it look like it has more capacity. Look, Australia Post sells real 8GB sticks for about $50.

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bowiee 
2/8/08 11:25:31 AM
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Hang on now, if the USB drives are formatted using fat32, and if my failing memory serves me, then there is a 4 gig limit in fat32 for file size.

http://www.supportforyourpc.com/tools/get_article.asp?aid=1035

EDIT: Wadda ya know my 5,000th post :)



Edited by bowiee: 2/8/2008 11:29:00 AM

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scruffy1 
2/8/08 2:35:14 PM
Primarch

Quote by bowiee
Hang on now, if the USB drives are formatted using fat32, and if my failing memory serves me, then there is a 4 gig limit in fat32 for file size.

http://www.supportforyourpc.com/tools/get_article.asp?aid=1035



that would fit with my experience

now to learn how to fix 'em

i'll update the thread once i see how i do

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bowiee 
2/8/08 3:43:19 PM
Hero
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This should help you on your way.
http://www.ntfs.com/quest22.htm

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scruffy1 
3/8/08 12:27:12 PM
Primarch

Quote by bowiee
This should help you on your way.
http://www.ntfs.com/quest22.htm



thx for the linky - but my supplier has confirmed it's a scam

his original samples were kosher, and then they sent the duds on the second (bigger) order

bastards !

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bowiee 
3/8/08 12:44:31 PM
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None the less any drive you get you may have to format to NTFS to avoid the 4gig limit. But as the fuzz pointed out "you get what you pay for".

These days it is better to stick to brand name drives, that way you have the best chance of getting what you pay for.

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Jeruselem 
3/8/08 3:50:03 PM
Champion

Just a note - there's exFAT or FAT64, supported only by Vista SP1 which enables up to 16 Exabytes of storage.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT

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Sentrinox 
5/8/08 1:37:07 PM
Learner
that 4gb limit you're thinking of is the old FAT16 i think... or maybe just FAT... one of them had a small limit... it was 2gb or 4gb i forget... but my 8gb usb works fine for me which i bought on ebay =)

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5/8/08 4:12:05 PM
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Quote by Sentrinox
that 4gb limit you're thinking of is the old FAT16 i think... or maybe just FAT... one of them had a small limit... it was 2gb or 4gb i forget... but my 8gb usb works fine for me which i bought on ebay =)


FAT16 had a 2GB volume limit. FAT32 had a 4GB max file size limit, and a 2TB volume limit.

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Sentrinox 
6/8/08 6:04:00 PM
Apprentice
Ahh ok thanks for refreshing my memory =)

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