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I want Blu-ray,but is it worth it on the PC?
hulkster 
21/6/08 9:31:48 PM
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I want Blu-ray but we as yet to buy a Plasma or LCD TV (Holding off till xmas)

I'd like one for the PC thou but my monitor is only a 22inch LCD (Acer AL2216W)so would I see any benefits over a DVD on this?

What resolution does my monitor need to do for me to be able to watch blu-ray?

And yeah,I suck at tech :(

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ShiroKage 
21/6/08 9:56:17 PM
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In terms of raw figures:

Your monitor has a resolution of 1680x1050.
Most DVDs have a resolution of 720×576.
Most BDs have a resolution of 1920×1080.

In terms of actual visible benefits, it's a bit of a grey area I think. For a lot of movies no. For some, yes. For me, the movie Troy really opened my eyes about the limitations of DVD. I'm running on a 22" monitor too, and I played Troy, and wow, all the tiny people are just a mess of pixels. But to be fair, that's the only bad thing I've noticed with DVDs playing in real time.

For a comparison (possibly blu-ray biased) of still shots for a whole lot of movies, see:
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?s=7c7c965953f84fa6a80d243c9c9a35f6&p=617171&postcou

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illdrift 
21/6/08 10:10:05 PM
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Generally no matter what your resolution is, the larger the source resolution, the better the image is (even if it's being shrunk down, as in your case).

How much better varies, but it will always be better (atleast in theory).

Here's a similar example. A game (unreal tournament 3) is rendered at 5120x3840, and then shrunk down to 1024x768:
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3382/highressourcevd5.jpg

And here is the game rendered at 1024x768 to begin with:
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/416/originalresnh6.jpg

So similar sort of principle.

As for whether blu-ray will actually be worth it on a smaller screen. Perhaps try watching one of the apple high-def trailers, see what you think for yourself:

http://www.apple.com/trailers/

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drago13666 
22/6/08 1:59:55 PM
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Quote by illdrift
Generally no matter what your resolution is, the larger the source resolution, the better the image is (even if it's being shrunk down, as in your case).

How much better varies, but it will always be better (atleast in theory).

Here's a similar example. A game (unreal tournament 3) is rendered at 5120x3840, and then shrunk down to 1024x768:
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3382/highressourcevd5.jpg

And here is the game rendered at 1024x768 to begin with:
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/416/originalresnh6.jpg

So similar sort of principle.

As for whether blu-ray will actually be worth it on a smaller screen. Perhaps try watching one of the apple high-def trailers, see what you think for yourself:

http://www.apple.com/trailers/



I'm not sure i like that example, the larger resolution scaled down to my eye just looks like the sharpness setting is too high.

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GhostFaceKilla 
24/6/08 9:16:07 AM
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Short answer is YES a Blu Ray movie will look better on your existing monitor than a standard DVD. Absolutely. Less grainy, more colour and sharpness. I am assuming you have a decent graphics card and cpu though so as to process it properly?


Oh and a Blu Ray player for the PC is not that expensive (you dont need to get a model that burns Blu Ray discs, saving you money). The other thing is to make sure you get a dvd decoder thatdecodes BLU Ray. Cyberlinks latest Power DVD and Nero Showtime 8 support Blu Ray.

I am thinking of getting a Blu ray player myself for the PC some time in the very short future.


Edited by GhostFaceKilla: 24/6/2008 09:21:56 AM

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TheFrunj 
24/6/08 12:42:13 PM
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Keep in mind too that your Graphics card will need to support HDCP (High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection), as well as the monitor.

Your monitor does support HDCP, so you'll be fine there, it's just the graphics card that will need to support it as well. There are ways of getting around the protection, like AnyDvdHD, but those use extra CPU and such.

When you do get the big LCD/Plasma, a simple DVI to HDMI cable is all you need to connect the computer to the TV.

Also as mentioned, you'll need a program that can actually play the Bluray discs, like the Cyberlink 7.4/8.

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wingnut0021 
24/6/08 10:02:44 PM
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Quote by ShiroKage
In terms of raw figures:

Your monitor has a resolution of 1680x1050.
Most DVDs have a resolution of 720×576.
Most BDs have a resolution of 1920×1080.

In terms of actual visible benefits, it's a bit of a grey area I think. For a lot of movies no. For some, yes. For me, the movie Troy really opened my eyes about the limitations of DVD. I'm running on a 22" monitor too, and I played Troy, and wow, all the tiny people are just a mess of pixels. But to be fair, that's the only bad thing I've noticed with DVDs playing in real time.

For a comparison (possibly blu-ray biased) of still shots for a whole lot of movies, see:
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?s=7c7c965953f84fa6a80d243c9c9a35f6&p=617171&postcou



You need to remember that those screenshots are from NTSC sources so the yare 720x480 and have the limiting ntsc colour space. You will notice that that skin tone is a bit redder on the DVD shots and might not be on PAL dvds.

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hulkster 
6/7/08 4:32:22 PM
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I bought the Pioneer Zeb suggested.

I'm more than impressed with it.

I should of pointed out I have a quad 9300 and a 8800GT.

Works flawlessly. Watched Pirates of the Carrabean on it yesterday.

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GhostFaceKilla 
7/7/08 9:32:34 PM
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Quote by hulkster
I bought the Pioneer Zeb suggested.

I'm more than impressed with it.

I should of pointed out I have a quad 9300 and a 8800GT.

Works flawlessly. Watched Pirates of the Carrabean on it yesterday.



great to know as i am this close to getting one for me box. Now a question though - what decoding software are your using??

I was looking at Nero 8 but it needs a plug in you have to purchase seperately which is shitty but the plug in apparently works with Nero 7 which i have.

the only other thing i can think of id the latest Power DVD?

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hulkster 
8/7/08 9:41:23 PM
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Yep mate,came with powerDVD.

I'm really impressed with it :)

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elmo198 
27/7/08 12:13:00 AM
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nothing beats hi-def movies. I my drive read both HD-Dvd and blurays, is awesome stuff, once you go HD you wont go back.

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