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Saphhire Brand of Motherboard
MadMax1412 
4/8/08 2:50:32 PM
Serf
Hi Guys,

I'm thinking of changing my mobo for my AMD 64 4800+ Dual Core 939 socket format CPU to a SAPPHIRE PC-A9RD480Adv mobo.

939 socket format boards are hard to come by and I can buy this one new.

The specs are at http://www.sapphiretech.com/us/products/products_overview.php?gpid=129&grp=7

Has anyone had any experience with the Sapphire brand?

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Cpt. Lock 
4/8/08 2:56:52 PM
Banned

interesting. Saphire make great video cards, but i've never heard of them making a motherboard in my life.

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Jeruselem 
4/8/08 4:37:34 PM
Champion

Looks like Sapphire are following XFX (who mainly do video cards) into mobo business.

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MadMax1412 
4/8/08 5:01:17 PM
Serf
The Bios is dated 3rd April 2006, so I would have assumed that they've been in business for at least a few years. Surprising that it appears that no-one has heard of them in the mobo field.

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Jeruselem 
4/8/08 5:09:38 PM
Champion

Quote by MadMax1412
The Bios is dated 3rd April 2006, so I would have assumed that they've been in business for at least a few years. Surprising that it appears that no-one has heard of them in the mobo field.



It's all down to volume and publicity. Sapphire's range is limited at best and in terms of volume sold, not much compared to Gigabyte, ASUS, etc. XFX like to send stuff to reviewers so they get a bit more publicity although they are new to the mobo business. You'll find most mobo makers sell video cards as well.


Edited by Jeruselem: 4/8/2008 5:14:20 PM

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MadMax1412 
4/8/08 8:13:08 PM
Serf
I'm really hoping that someone might have had some experience with this brand.

I've had a few problems lately with my computer, the latest being that my current mobo doesn't seem to handle the 3850HD card I bought. I thought it was my PSU so I purchased a Corsair HX620 but I'm still having the same issue. Furthermore, my Fusion TV card now seems to be having trouble getting a TV signal (even though an Antenna tech has checked my signal strength and it's great). I'm also having the occasional freeze and the onboard LAN conection is flaky so I've disabled it in the bios and added in a PCI card.

I'm debating whether to purchase this mobo for a total cost of $90, or bite the bullet and buy a new mobo and CPU. Money's tight, so although it would be nice to fix my PC problems with an outlay of just $90, it would be a shame if I went down that route and found that I still have problems.

If I went down the mobo/cpu route, I probably might try an Intel CPU - What would you guys suggest?

I need 3 SATA connections, a few USB connections (printer, webcam, iPAQ dock etc) and a firewire port (for scanner) on the back, plus on-board connectors for front USB connections (headset) and firewire (Video Camera) and obviously the standard ethernet connection. I won't be buying dual graphic cards so I don't need SLI capability nor am I into RAIDing.

Thanks

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sora3 
5/8/08 9:43:40 AM
Immortal

I would actually just go for a new motherboard and CPU. The tell tale signs of dying LAN and as well as the PCI problem is probably signs that it's time to replace. Having to find a socket 939 isn't worth the time and effort so upgrading might save you a few hairs along the way...

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Jeruselem 
5/8/08 10:36:33 AM
Champion

Quote by sora3
I would actually just go for a new motherboard and CPU. The tell tale signs of dying LAN and as well as the PCI problem is probably signs that it's time to replace. Having to find a socket 939 isn't worth the time and effort so upgrading might save you a few hairs along the way...



Yes, I got my socket 939 mobo and CPU just before the AM2 socket took over.

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eckythump 
6/8/08 6:14:26 PM
Overlord

I also agree a new motherboard and CPU is the way to go.

A low end motherboard, something like the Gigabyte GA-P31-DS3L + a $45 Intel E1200 CPU. That'll set you back ~$130ish and would likely compare/beat your current system.

That's if you want a cheap upgrade. If you want to spend a bit more and do it right, I'd get the GA-EP45-DS3 motherboard, and then the highest priced intel core2 CPU your budget allows.

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MadMax1412 
8/8/08 10:01:45 AM
Serf
Thanks.

Is there much difference in real world performance between the E8400 and the E8500? Intel's website shows the only difference being the front side bus is 3 Ghz and 3.16 Ghz respectively, with Shopping Square selling them for $184 and $206 respectively.

Is $22 worth the extra speed on the FSB?

PS, the mobo goes for $155 on Shopping Square.

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osama_bin_athlon 
8/8/08 12:37:19 PM
Hero
Immortal


DON'T get that mobo, or anything else with a P31 chipset - for $150 approximately you can get a P45 based mobo. I'm currently using an Asus P5Q and loving it, lovely board, well endowed with features, and so cheap.
http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?modelmenu=1&model=2164&l1=3&l2=11&l3=709&l4

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Jeruselem 
8/8/08 1:42:57 PM
Champion

Quote by MadMax1412
Thanks.

Is there much difference in real world performance between the E8400 and the E8500? Intel's website shows the only difference being the front side bus is 3 Ghz and 3.16 Ghz respectively, with Shopping Square selling them for $184 and $206 respectively.

Is $22 worth the extra speed on the FSB?

PS, the mobo goes for $155 on Shopping Square.



$22 is nothing in the scheme of things... just get the E8500. Both the E8400 and E8500 are good overclockers should you try that later.

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MadMax1412 
8/8/08 1:44:09 PM
Serf
I was thinking of getting the GA-EP45-DS3 anyway - that's the one I meant when I said the mobo goes for $155 on Shopping Square. Sorry for the confusion.

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MadMax1412 
20/8/08 8:38:27 PM
Serf
Guys,

A couple of quick questions.

My current mobo which I'm replacing has Corsair RAM with a sticker which says it's VS512MB400. The Corsair website says this is PC-3200 memory. Is it also known as DDR2?

The Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3 will only take DDR2 and DDR3 memory. I have read enough about DDR3 to know that the extra cost isn't worth the small performance increase at the moment, so what should I purchase (brand and quantity) for this new mobo (OS will be WinXP Home SP3)? Am I limited to exactly the brands and models listed on the Gigabyte website?

Thanks


Edited by MadMax1412: 20/8/2008 08:42:28 PM

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donkeyruler 
20/8/08 10:19:01 PM
Primarch

If you want it to be as cheap as possible then i'd grab the P45-DS3L (P45 motherboards second PCIE slot runs at 8x im pretty sure) 2 or 4GB of DDR2 800 Memory and an E8400 CPU. and thers a decent yet cheap setup right there.


Edited by donkeyruler: 20/8/2008 10:21:15 PM

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MadMax1412 
21/8/08 9:39:52 AM
Initiate
I've already purchased the mobo and cpu (E8500).

Does the CPU, which has a FSB of 1333MHz, make a difference to the choice of RAM?

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sora3 
21/8/08 10:21:30 AM
Immortal

Quote by MadMax1412
I've already purchased the mobo and cpu (E8500).

Does the CPU, which has a FSB of 1333MHz, make a difference to the choice of RAM?



Only if you're overclocking, then it'll make a lot of difference (such as timings and the headroom of the RAM itself). But if you're only doing a stock job, then the choice of RAM isn't really important...

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MadMax1412 
21/8/08 10:30:02 AM
Initiate
Thanks - I take it that I can use either 800MHz or 1066MHz and it won't make much of a difference. Another couple of dumb questions.

I'm using a 32-bit WinXP OS - Is the system capable of using 4GB (2 x 2GB) or am I best to just buy 2x1GB?

Do timings really make a difference? eg 4-4-4-12 as opposed to 5-5-5-15

In case it's important, I'll be using the computer to mostly record TV shows and to play the occasional FPS (First Person Shooter) game such as Crysis

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sora3 
21/8/08 8:41:08 PM
Immortal

1) No. Any 32bit OS will not be able to address all 4GB without issues.

2) Timings do make some difference but not a lot. It usually becomes important in overclocking and especially Athlon based systems.

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MadMax1412 
22/8/08 9:36:22 AM
Initiate
Thanks Sora3. I'm not into overclocking so it's great news not to have to be finicky about timings.

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