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Intel to remove overclocking ability on future CPUs, restrict current ones
PC FREAK 
17/5/08 12:33:02 PM
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m0zes = old school

Every chip ive owned has had locked multipliers. (first chip was a Celeron 700)

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tr0110p 
19/5/08 9:58:57 AM
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so you're going to have to actually understand what you're doing to tweak future Intel BIOS's? that's okay.
as long as you can still overclock the fuckers, that may not be such a bad thing.

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scotty1991 
20/5/08 12:27:01 PM
Disciple
Those features are good... my high end P35 asus board has these

* GTL Reference Voltages
* CPU VTT and its relation to GTLs
* CPU PLL Voltages

So bringing it to lower end boards means that people will have even more fine tuning capabilities at a lower cost.

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wraith676 
23/5/08 7:53:05 PM
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Hmmm i was thinking as well that intel may be wanting to secure the high performace cpu market. No-one in there right mind would pay top price for a cpu, when they could have the same speed on a cheaper chip.

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jasonsco11 
23/5/08 10:44:27 PM
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the only reason i changed from amd to intel was because of the overclocking ability of the core duo.the only intel chip i owned before core duo was a pIII 667.i dont see much value in intel cpus without the overclocking headroom that comes with them.


Edited by jasonsco11: 23/5/2008 10:46:17 PM

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robzy 
24/5/08 2:35:56 AM
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Quote by PC FREAK
If this is true then i either wont be overclocking anymore or back to AMD i go :)


You realise you are essentially stating the obvious? What other option would you have? :P

Rob.

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moofactory 
27/5/08 1:13:45 PM
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I dont think this will happen.

this wouldnt just affect us, but also many motherboard manufacturers will be pretty angry.

Overclocking has become a selling point on their high end gaming boards and they have no doubt invested alot of money/effort into this aspect of their boards.

ASUS is gona crack the shits.

Having said that... in the end just like software hackers.. ASUS and the like may well find a loophole and build new boards to get around their safeguards.

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waylander232 
27/5/08 2:33:44 PM
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Quote by moofactory
I dont think this will happen.

this wouldnt just affect us, but also many motherboard manufacturers will be pretty angry.

Overclocking has become a selling point on their high end gaming boards and they have no doubt invested alot of money/effort into this aspect of their boards.

ASUS is gona crack the shits.

Having said that... in the end just like software hackers.. ASUS and the like may well find a loophole and build new boards to get around their safeguards.



I agree, there will always be a way around. Just look at SecuRom.

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rroguee 
29/5/08 12:58:54 PM
Master

Don't forget that the overclocking community that would be affected by this are a very small portion of Intel's consumer base;

Most people (I'd say) don't overclock their CPU's - Mine isn't OC'ed and the performance is fine, so I don't worry about it

A lot of PC's are sold pre-built, to consumers who don't know / care about overclocking

Either way, it's a bad move for those of us willing to overclock, but overall even in the worst possible scenario, I don't see it being a 'huge' loss in Intel sales if mid-level enthusiasts can't overclock anymore.

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m0zes 
1/6/08 10:24:47 AM
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Quote by rroguee
Either way, it's a bad move for those of us willing to overclock, but overall even in the worst possible scenario, I don't see it being a 'huge' loss in Intel sales if mid-level enthusiasts can't overclock anymore.



Agreed, however what it would loose for intel is prestige. No more 3D mark, superpi records etc. All though the market isn't massive, to have the fastest cpu overclocked or other wise is still an important measure of the quality of the product being produced.

The other way this can also be considered is perhaps intel aren't trying to limit overclocking at all. If this tech is also used on desktop boards then it's possible that intel are trying to make overclocking even easier. Perhaps they are even trying to make it an integral part of the architecture. If the clock generated by the motherboard and cpu have to match then perhaps this is a way of ensuring stability when auto overclocking so that one part is not pushing further than another can go resulting in instability.

cheers


Edited by m0zes: 1/6/2008 10:25:23 AM

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colganaitor 
1/6/08 8:47:51 PM
Learner

i think intel's making a move for the non-enthusiast-inclined. in a financial sense, this sort of makes sense because then people would buy higher-end chips more, rather than just overclocking midrange chips.
However, who does buy high-end chips? Enthusiasts.

Intel could indeed be shooting themselves in the foot.

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mandalore 
16/7/08 4:20:33 PM
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Quote by .:Cyb3rGlitch:.
Yup. AMD, if you're listening... THIS IS YOUR CHANCE!

That is all.

P.S. Intel can DIAF.



AMD CPUs are crap overclockers though.

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heydude 
16/7/08 7:01:14 PM
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If it were affecting desktop cpu's it would be a worry, but if only server orientated cpu's then who would mind really.

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morgoth 
19/7/08 2:54:10 PM
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I dont tend to agree, more options doesn't necessarily kill off overclocking, if anything, it allows more fine tweaking for the sponsored experts who shift the most weight in the advertising war anyway.


Anyone ever use a DFI CFX3200 Crossfire 939 mobo? it had more overclocking options than my new Asus P5Q Deluxe P45.

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xidus 
20/7/08 12:30:25 AM
Champion

The DFI boards from the 939 era had so many options... it took me months to learn the ins and outs of my SLI-DR, if only the DFI core 2 boards were as widely available and inexpensive these days, I would certainly get an P45/X48 board from them now if they were better priced and more available here.

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osama_bin_athlon 
21/7/08 11:18:22 AM
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what a load of crap - the P45 has virtually identical overclocking capabilities as the P35 - I've had a P35, and replaced it with a P45, there are no more options to speak of.
they've been the very same rumours getting around since the Northwood - don't worry about it.


Edited by osama_bin_athlon: 21/7/2008 11:18:59 AM

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bnew 
21/7/08 11:37:29 AM
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Quote by robzy
Quote by PC FREAK
If this is true then i either wont be overclocking anymore or back to AMD i go :)


You realise you are essentially stating the obvious? What other option would you have? :P

Rob.



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morgoth 
21/7/08 2:22:03 PM
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I'm surprised how many of you thing overclocking of intel will be stopped....

There's always a way, always will be

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nesquick 
21/7/08 2:27:27 PM
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not to mention the extreme series draw card they have always had.

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