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Intel to remove overclocking ability on future CPUs, restrict current ones
TheFrunj 
13/5/08 7:37:01 PM
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It seems that the dark rumours about Intel stopping overclocking of some Nehalem CPUs have an inkling of truth to them.

The up-and-coming P45 chipset, awaited by many to be a better overclocker than the current P35, is now going to become more complicated. To overclock significantly on the new boards, you'll need to know:

* GTL Reference Voltages
* CPU VTT and its relation to GTLs
* Clock Skews
* CPU PLL Voltages


http://www.tweaktown.com/news/9438/intend_to_overclock_intel_p45/index.html


This is a bad move by Intel, as less and less people will be inclined to buy these boards to overclock with.
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And in other news, Intel will be effectively stopping anyone to overclock on one of their new sockets. LGA1160 (instead of LGA1360 or LGA1567) will require that a clock generator will be installed in both the CPU and the motherboard. If there is discrepancy between them, they will both revert to stock speeds, essentially removing overclocking with a hardware solution.

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7255&Itemid=1


Looks like AMD might actually turn into the enthusiast's choice again. If Intel restricts overclocking on all their CPUs in a similar manner, then it might be better price/performance.


What do you think about this?

*edit*

*-_-*Pre-emptive warning . If you show any Fanboyism, or declare something outlandish without proof, you'll be RTM'd. I don't want spammers in here, take it somewhere else. *-_-*


Edited by TheFrunj: 13/5/2008 7:47:59 PM

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13/5/08 7:40:26 PM
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Yup. AMD, if you're listening... THIS IS YOUR CHANCE!

That is all.

P.S. Intel can DIAF.

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nesquick 
13/5/08 7:42:54 PM
Guru

its all over for intel if they do carry this through hmm this does change my view on current amd vs intel issues.


Edited by nesquick: 13/5/2008 07:43:49 PM

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Fat_Bodybuilder 
13/5/08 7:55:12 PM
Titan

Fuck that's bad. I own both an Intel System (Q6600) and an AMD system (X2 4200+) and they both do what I need to do, however if Intel are going to stop overclocking, period, then I probably won't go for Intel, as the Phenom 9850 are doing really well now, only reason I'd go for an Intel Quad is coz I know I can get ~1GHz out with no cost, making it the better performer.

Oh well, I just hope not. And if it does happen, then I hope AMD get into shape with their OC capability, or maybe they'll follow with the attitude of "Well we'll just raise the price!"

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13/5/08 8:02:02 PM
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Great timing too, I just finished an overclocking tutorial. -_-

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Tech-Kid 
13/5/08 8:02:09 PM
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The normal desktop socket 1360 will still allow overclocking. Any other platforms will have overclocking disabled.

It's the rise of AMD now.

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6965&Itemid=1

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c0nc0n 
13/5/08 8:17:36 PM
Overlord

Do you think Intel actually planned this? I have this suspicious feeling there is some sort of conspiracy behind this potential move. If Intel is actually doing this, I don't think anyone in their right state of mind would do that to their consumers. I think someone has paid them off.

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13/5/08 8:19:02 PM
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Quote by c0nc0n
Do you think Intel actually planned this? I have this suspicious feeling there is some sort of conspiracy behind this potential move. If Intel is actually doing this, I don't think anyone in their right state of mind would do that to their consumers. I think someone has paid them off.


Possibly, and how I do hope your right. But I think they are that stupid, money does weird things to people...

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SceptreCore 
13/5/08 8:21:28 PM
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Don't worry guys, you will still be able to overclock if you buy a desktop CPU, just don't buy a server one!

however AMD have got clock restriction on all their CPU's except Black Editions, so your still going to have more overclocking options on nahelem then AMD


Edited by SceptreCore: 13/5/2008 8:21:36 PM

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Tech-Kid 
13/5/08 8:56:47 PM
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No they don't. Got any proof? People can still o'c their Phenom's and so on....

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nesquick 
13/5/08 9:05:35 PM
Guru

+1 the problem i see is motherboard brands such as asus and gigabyte will suffer to, why buy a top of the line board when you cant oc...

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13/5/08 10:10:37 PM
Titan

Quote by nesquick
+1 the problem i see is motherboard brands such as asus and gigabyte will suffer to, why buy a top of the line board when you cant oc...


Well the top of the line motherboards can overclock. Bloomfield motherboards are the high-end socket type, apart from the server boards. Pretty crap how they restrict the low end boards though. :(

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Jeruselem 
13/5/08 10:52:12 PM
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How sad, looks like I'll have go build a QX9xxx Intel system before the unoverclockable systems take over.

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nukejockey 
13/5/08 10:55:14 PM
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Why would they do that? I dont get it.

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TheFrunj 
13/5/08 11:03:43 PM
Titan

Quote by nukejockey
Why would they do that? I dont get it.


To force us to pay for higher models if we want higher performance I guess.

Which sucks.

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discoInferno 
14/5/08 8:53:43 AM
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Quote by SceptreCore
...however AMD have got clock restriction on all their CPU's except Black Editions, so your still going to have more overclocking options on nahelem then AMD...



As far as I know, the only difference between a Black Edition and a normal AMD chip is the black edition has a fully unlocked multiplier (ie. can raise or lower it), whereas on a normal AMD chip, the multiplier can only be lowered. The "clock speed" can be raised or lowered either way... at least I'm pretty sure that's the way it works... :)

If the Intel OC locking is only going to be on the server level, then I can't see it being a terrible problem - simply buy a desktop product and be happy. Surely with the way both Intel and AMD have been seen to be embracing the overclocker in recent time, they won't suddenly just turn their backs on us completely. I live in hope.

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Master_Scythe 
14/5/08 2:00:04 PM
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pretty sure you're correct there mate.

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insalt72 
15/5/08 9:46:08 PM
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It's all money and greed.Just another restriction on life..can't do this can't do that all for the mighty dollar,it can't be anything else.

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PC FREAK 
17/5/08 12:17:40 AM
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If this is true then i either wont be overclocking anymore or back to AMD i go :)

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m0zes 
17/5/08 1:44:22 AM
Champion
Whilst i agree that this doesn't sound to good for intel, i'll reserve my final judgement until these new platforms are released. Intel know that alot of the success they have had with their core2 series was due to the overclockability of their products. To limit/ban it can only have a negative impact on their products, thus perhaps theirs some issues with the new cpus with integrated memory controllers. If you look back at the locking of clock multipliers this was done not to limit overclocking but rather to protect consumers from being sold a slower cpu at faster model price. Thus if it's being introduced in server/workstation products it's possible that it's to guarantee stability.

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