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Widescreen or standard ?
s1a 
7/9/08 11:15:59 PM
Serf
i'm looking to buy new lcd monitor? is widescreen better than standard? what lcd brand & model that's good & economical? can anybody help?

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m0zes 
8/9/08 2:09:27 PM
Champion
So you want to buy a new lcd, what's the ? for, wondering whether it's worth it over a crt?

4:3 or 16:10

That's certainly worth considering as it will have a major impact on your purchase options. 4:3 is really the standard of days gone by, if you want 4:3 you'll be limiting yourself size wise to 19-20" panels. They are also not the cheapest screens going round as the ratio is more expensive to produce due to more panel waist during manufacturing. So realistically if you want the best value for money option you'll want 16:10. Frankly your not loosing out in any way shape or form here either, think of it this way it has become the new standard ratio for many good reasons. To give a few examples, cheaper manufacturing costs means larger and cheaper displays for consumers, the ratio displays media ratios much better [16:9] thus less letter boxing, it's a more natural ratio for the human eye so games are more immersive.

So what brands should you look out for, well there aren't any hard and fast rules as all of them have some poor products and good ones it's just a matter of knowing which products are good. But here are some for you to look at:
Samsung, dell, hp, nec, eizo, viewsonic, benq, lenovo, chimei, lg, asus, apple.

As for economical options, the main thing to consider here are screen size, bit depth [colour rendering], what you want/use from a display ie size, colour, gaming, photo editing etc. From there you can start to put together an idea of what would be the right type of screen for you. Here's a few generic screen examples:

22" @ 1680x1050 TN-film based lcd: Price is around the $250-300 mark, colour rendering is fine nothing amazing but will suit most tasks.

24"-28" @ 1920x1200 TN-film based lcd: Price is around the $450-700 mark depending on the over all size you choose for. Same as above, except this size starts becoming amazing for gaming, especially @ 28". But note 1920x1200 @ 28" is pushing the limit of that res for desktop usage, thus if your using the screen for more desktop activities ie CAD, spreadsheets etc then stick with the 24". Also the higher resolution of these panels means more load on your graphics subsystem, so if you plan on gaming at this resolution make sure you've got the system to run it.

24"-27" @ 1920x1200 s-pva or ips based lcd: Price is around the $700-1200 mark, but you can find cheaper models and much more expensive models as this the territory of professional products. These have excellent colour reproduction @ 8bits through to hp's 30bit screens. These are well suited to just about any applications, though there response times are slower than TN based products so some people may find ghosting in certain circumstances. Some s-pva based screens also suffer from input lag, that is a lag between an action and it appearing on the screen ie moving in a game.

30" @ 2560x1600 s-pva or ips based lcd: Price is around $1500+, $1500 is the low point and to get one of these bad boys at this price takes some good timing. From their the price keeps going up, $2000-2500 is typical at this market point. Spend the money and you'll be rewarded with the largest desktop display on the commercial market, it's suitable for any application but remember 2560x1600 is nearly twice the amount of pixels of a 1920x1200 display. So if you plan to game on one of these be prepared to upgrade regularly to highend hardware. On you'll also need a dual-link dvi compliant graphics card to support the screens resolution. Most cards from the past few generations are compliant.


So there's some things for you to think about. If you provide use with some more details ie what you want to use it for, what you value size or quality and of course price we can make some screen recommendations for you to consider.

cheers


Edited by m0zes: 8/9/2008 2:21:20 PM

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Jeruselem 
8/9/08 3:17:53 PM
Guru

Nice write-up there m0zes! :)

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Harmonic Cacophony 
8/9/08 3:58:31 PM
Titan

I just got a 24" 16:10, and I find it's a bit weird to read text on, as it all sprawls across the screen and is hard to keep track of.

But for games and movies, I would't go back to tallscreen.

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Milano 
8/9/08 7:35:01 PM
Hero
Immortal


Thanks, m0zes.

s1a, if you end up being in the market for a 22" widescreen (as I am now), you'll find the most recommended models are the Samsungs (2253BW, 2253LW, 2232BW) & an older ASUS model (VW222U), which i've pushed to the top of my list.

Have a look around though - yours are the only eyes you should trust.

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s1a 
8/9/08 10:12:39 PM
Serf
thx m0zes.

i use it for general use (wp,internet browsing), some photo & video editing, some gaming.

my problem is there's no place that have monitor display side by side for viewing like when you buy TV, so ppl can compare :(

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m0zes 
9/9/08 5:28:47 AM
Champion
There are places that do, harvey normans and office works [especially good considering they sell dell now too] often do, you can find dell kiosks around the place with displays on show, larger pc stores that relly on customers walking through also are a good place to try or call before going. End of the day you will not always find the screens side by side that you want to see, but if your looking at cheaper screens this becomes easier. But remember, never, never, never buy a screen from the place your viewing it unless you can confirm that the asking price is reasonable. Other wise view then buy online etc.

cheers

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Milano 
9/9/08 11:22:50 AM
Hero
Immortal


Yeah unfortunately, the monitor i'm looking at (VW222U), which I haven't actually seen with my own eyes yet, is about a year old, & hence non-existent on retail display shelves.

I only know of two places who stock a bunch of them, but they won't take it out the box for me to pre-view.

Was calling up Harvey Norman, Officeworks, Good guys, Myers ect. yesterday, but they don't stock it.

I've done a bit of homework on this, but i'd still like to view the screen myself, but if I can't, i'll just buy the thing on Friday, give it a good run-in over the weekend & hope it lives up to the hype.

You should find it easier to pre-view a newer model screen though.


Edited by Milano: 9/9/2008 11:23:39 AM

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m0zes 
9/9/08 1:11:43 PM
Champion
For screens that have been out for some time it's worth considering hitting up your local lans. If they have good numbers and the screen has been a popular 22-24" TN based display you should be able to find a few people running them. Swap meets are another place to consider visiting. But all this does come down to how much foot work your prepared to do. If your spending your valuable time searching for a place to view the screen and it's not a particularly expensive purchase you've got to consider whether it's time well spent or not. Some times as Milano states, you've just got to buy it based on good opinions and cross your fingers.

cheers


Edited by m0zes: 9/9/2008 01:18:25 PM

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