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osama_bin_athlon 
31/8/08 2:34:19 AM
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I'll be coming into a bit of money in the very near future, and wouldn't mind upgrading everything. first on the list is a nice big monitor, something to replace the 28" (27.5" actual) ViewSonic.
something around 34" and under $1.5K would be nice - would I better off getting a 1080i TV and using that?
I'll be retiring the 3870X2, and getting a 4870X2 (or 2x, if necessary!) what would be the limit for maxing out 1 or 2 4870X2's?
this is a one of windfall, so, I basically want to set myself up for the next few years.
any recommendations, please?

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m0zes 
31/8/08 8:33:29 AM
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Okay so you want to replace the 28" with something bigger, why? To set you up for the future, sounds a little odd, but let me entertain it for a while since you haven't told us alot about your current system. So tell me how you currently use the screen? Do you sit 60cm or 6m, is it a part of your desktop system or is it part of a htpc, is it in your lounge room/bedroom/study? What do you use it for, gaming, bluray, professional apps? How about the 28", what do you like about it, what do you not like?

cheers

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superfireydave 
31/8/08 9:58:47 AM
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Well, your 28" is a piece of crap to me, it's more like a TV than a monitor.
If you were going to upgrade it, there's the 30" Dell, but that's double your budget.

So if you're just after low screen area, and don't give a shit about resolution (which it seems -_-) then grab a TV I guess, although I fail to understand why people use TV's as computer monitors given the awful dot pitch >_<

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The Fuzz damn you! 
31/8/08 10:40:44 AM
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The size of the monitor is relevant to you GPU needs -- it's the resolution that matters. 30" Dell 3008 ($2k+) is what you're after. Can't see any point in upgrading to anything else, although I suppose (as mentioned) it depends on your usage.

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osama_bin_athlon 
31/8/08 11:09:13 AM
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well, I use it for everything - playing driving sims, watching TV, surfing the intranets. it's part of my desktop system, but, I also watch telly whilst reclining on the lounge.....the system as it is is:
E8400 @ 3.84G/ 3870X2/ 4G 1066Mhz RAM/ P5Q/ DVICO DVB-T Dual Digital4/ sb Audigy/ 3x 320G HDD's RAID_5/ 2x 500G HDD's RAID_0/ DVR-215/ 650w Antec/ Antec 900/ L'tech diNOVO/ XP x64/ L'tech G-25 wheel.....but that'll be upgraded to 4870X2 (perhaps 2x if required for the new monitor....) X48, Azentech sound card/ LianLi ArmourSuit PC-P80B/ 1TB HDD's and this present one will go to my bedroom
basically, it'll be doing virtually everything......
so, the Dell? what about Samsung? (Dell shits me) paying in excess of $2k is gonna hurt - the ViewSonic only cost $625 - I'd want more than 2" to 'justify' that kind of expenditure! it's borderline stupidity.

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m0zes 
31/8/08 11:51:19 AM
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Frankly given your needs i wouldn't recommed the dell or any 30" display to you. Realistically for desktop work the 28" is more than big enough and given the resolution of 1920x1200 is already being pushed to the limit at 28" i certainly would not be getting anything bigger @ 1920x1200 for desktop work. What your left with is distance viewing, for that a larger 1920x1020 display would do nicely. So perhaps consider this, buy another screen but something worth your while at say 40" and run your system dual screen. The current 28" remains in place for desktop use, while the 40" becomes the screen of choice whilst reclining back.

In terms of 30" displays however the dell is with out doubt the one to go for. It is on par if not better image quality wise than the competition. But where it wins out is input options. Here's KO, hdcp, if you want to enjoy 1920x1020/1920x1200 out of bluray you need a screen with hdcp compliant dvi/hdmi inputs and last time i checked the dell was the only one with hdcp and always has had from the original 3007 through all revisions. The others are fine for normal desktop usage but really aren't useful for high def media. Now remember 1920x1200 = around 2mp, 2560x1600 = around 4mp. A 30" panel is considerably harder to run, depending on game releases you might find yourself needing to upgrade very regularly.

cheers


Edited by m0zes: 31/8/2008 11:52:54 AM

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osama_bin_athlon 
31/8/08 12:01:47 PM
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so, maybe I'm better off to keep running the 28", and get a dedicated 40"-50" 1080i TV?
2" just isn't worth the $1.5K difference

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The Fuzz damn you! 
31/8/08 12:41:57 PM
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Like I said, it's not about the size it's about the resolution. If you just want something big, get a big, cheap shitty TV. If you want more detail, better colour and a *reason* to have a more powerful GPU, you'll need to be looking at 30" monitors . I have no idea about the relative merits of different brands, although the cheaper monitors are obviously going to be lacking in some area or another compared to the more expensive ones.

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m0zes 
31/8/08 12:45:00 PM
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I'd be going for 1080p over 1080i, remember your better of spending you're money on a higher quality small screen ie 40" over a lesser quality 50". But yes keep the 28" and get a dedicated tv, money much better spent in my opnion. As much as i'm a big fan of 30" 2560x1600 displays, given your current position i really don't see it being a particularly good purchase.

The fuzz, it's not about size, it's not about resolution, it's about the relationship between the two and what your using the display for. 30" 2560x1600 lcds a bloody fantastic for desktop usage there's no doubt about it, that is what they are designed for. What they aren't designed for is distance viewing, the high res over small viewable area makes is damn near impossible to use over a distance away. On the other hand a 40" display @ 1920x1020 is fantastic at a distance but terrible close up. It would be nice if there was a screen that allowed you to do everything, but unfortunately there isn't, thus you have to make sacrifices. In this case it does seem like size is crucial for distance viewing not close up as 28" @ 1920x1200 is fine for such uses.

cheers


Edited by m0zes: 31/8/2008 12:54:39 PM

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osama_bin_athlon 
31/8/08 2:29:02 PM
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cool. thanks a 1080p TV around 40" you reckon? any particular brand offering good value for money that you're aware of?

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m0zes 
31/8/08 3:24:47 PM
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Samsung and Sony

cheers

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The Fuzz damn you! 
31/8/08 5:00:34 PM
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Quote by m0zes
The fuzz, it's not about size, it's not about resolution, it's about the relationship between the two and what your using the display for. 30" 2560x1600 lcds a bloody fantastic for desktop usage there's no doubt about it, that is what they are designed for. What they aren't designed for is distance viewing, the high res over small viewable area makes is damn near impossible to use over a distance away. On the other hand a 40" display @ 1920x1020 is fantastic at a distance but terrible close up. It would be nice if there was a screen that allowed you to do everything, but unfortunately there isn't, thus you have to make sacrifices. In this case it does seem like size is crucial for distance viewing not close up as 28" @ 1920x1200 is fine for such uses.


Indeed. Given that OBA mentioned wanting to upgrade his graphics card though, I assumed he wanted a better looking picture, not just a bigger one. In this case, a bigger screen won't necessarily make, say, Crysis *look* any better, and it obviously won't make it run any better or worse. A bigger screen won't impact on performance, and if his current setup is fine then there's no need to invest into a more up-to-date GPU simply because he's getting a bigger screen.

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m0zes 
31/8/08 5:31:04 PM
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Agreed, i guess the reason oba was considering the graphics card upgrade was in case the larger screen ran at a higher resolution than his current screen. It's true that a bigger screen will not make a game necessarily look any better, unless there's an improvement in panel quality aswell. But when going from a smaller display say 19-20" to 24"+ you can certainly appreciate the image quality more, as things that you mighten have noticed before are much larger. But there's one thing for sure, running a large screen improves game atmosphere considerable. The game becomes more immersive and enjoyable, there's nothing like cranking up your favourite games on your new larger screen, i'll never forget the first time i played half life on my 19" crt [going from a 15"] or playing half life 2 on my 30" [going from 22" crt], bloody amazing.

Sticking with 1080/1200 certainly does make life alot easier for upgrades too. It's a res reasonably easily attainable by a large selection of graphics cards in the majority of games, whilst 2560x1600 is still very much left to the highest end products.

cheers


Edited by m0zes: 31/8/2008 5:34:37 PM

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spaced 
4/9/08 3:33:53 PM
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If you have WOW down south you can get a 1080p 42" LCD TV from LG for $1800. that will be my next TV for home.

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osama_bin_athlon 
4/9/08 8:10:08 PM
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WOW?
world of warcraft?

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superfireydave 
4/9/08 9:53:46 PM
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WOW Sight and Sound -_-

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LordBug 
4/9/08 10:32:16 PM
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And if you aren't near a WOW, they do courier the things over to you.

I'm stoked that it only cost $140 to get a 42" telly sent from Albury to Perth (And even more stoked about the TV itself).


Edited by LordBug: 4/9/2008 10:32:45 PM

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osama_bin_athlon 
8/9/08 12:52:07 PM
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I haven't seen them in Sydney, but, I'm sure that there'd be shops around that could match (or perhaps even better) that price.
the shops seem to be really pushing TV's at the moment,so it shouldn't be too difficult to grab a good deal - plus the fact that I'll be paying cash....

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