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Colour accurate 21"/21" monitor
orinjuse 
5/8/08 12:35:33 PM
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I've been looking at getting myself a new monitor. I was considering 24" - the Dell 2408WFP or the Samsung 245t, but I've had a look at them in person and they're bigger than I'd really like.

The Dell and the Samsung caught my eye because they're reasonably affordable, but have a good colour gamut and S-PVA panels. I do a lot of photographic editing, so I need the colour accuracy. Those two models don't have 21" versions, though.

What 21" or 22" monitors out there get good reviews, are affordable, and have good colour accuracy?

Also, the title is meant to be 21"/22". Mah bad.


Edited by orinjuse: 5/8/2008 3:13:01 PM

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superfireydave 
6/8/08 2:08:18 AM
Titan

afaik: no consumer range models.
You can probably find a few, but they're likely to be waaaaaay out of your price range.
I'd settle for the 24" or grab a CRT.
24" isn't *that* big (I have 2 :O), and $800 for a good quality once isn't that expensive either.

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orinjuse 
6/8/08 10:32:40 AM
Hero
Immortal


Quote by superfireydave
afaik: no consumer range models.
You can probably find a few, but they're likely to be waaaaaay out of your price range.
I'd settle for the 24" or grab a CRT.
24" isn't *that* big (I have 2 :O), and $800 for a good quality once isn't that expensive either.



Yeah, I can't afford an Eizo or anything, much as I lust for one. There's no way I'm getting a 21" CRT, though. Have you ever tried to pick one up? They weigh more than me!

Ah well, maybe a 24" will be OK.

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Sparky 
7/8/08 11:45:11 PM
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Go a 24", Even after three years of having one I sometime still think - oh, that's pretty big. But they are seriously nice. (I'm running a Dell 2405FPW FYI)

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lazyfly 
8/8/08 8:13:25 PM
Overlord

Good News: The Lenovo (IBM) L220X is a 22" that uses a S-PVA panel. It's meant to be very good.

Bad News: It's expensive at around $1000AUD which is a rip because it's only half that in $USD.

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thesorehead 
11/8/08 1:46:20 PM
Guru

I'm interested in this thread also because having set up my Samsung 172x next to a relatively-new 22" LG monitor, the Samsung defecates all over it!

I'd really like to swap the LG for a similar-sized monitor with the same awesome colour reproduction. I paid $660 for that 17" screen back in the day, before 19" became more or less standard. I can't believe that a similar-quality, but larger, screen is not available years in the future.

Tell me it ain't so!

EDIT: Sparky - I get a similar thing with my Samsung, where your original "wow" impression remains years after purchase. For me though there are two things: "wow, it's like a window in thin air, where you can see other things going on" and "wow, you put the photo up to the screen and they look exactly the same ."


Edited by thesorehead: 11/8/2008 1:50:38 PM

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superfireydave 
11/8/08 1:49:30 PM
Titan

I'm not sure what the 127x Samsung is, but the 22" LG is 6-bit and doesn't come calibrated extremely well afaik both of which could be reasons you find the Samsung superior =P

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thesorehead 
11/8/08 1:54:08 PM
Guru

The 172x was the very first 12ms screen, and as soon as I saw it reviewed in At0mic and PCAuthority (Recommended) I had to have it!!

http://www.overclockers.com.au/article.php?id=257238

I lub it.

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superfireydave 
11/8/08 2:18:09 PM
Titan

It's most likely a dodgy monitor or the colour calibration then =P
That, or the 17" you've got is just ridiculously awesome :|

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thesorehead 
11/8/08 2:37:46 PM
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I've fiddled with settings all over the place for the LG. Make it so "black" is reasonably black, and everything else is too dark, and there's nothing I can do to change everything looking kinda "grey".

Seems it just doesn't have the contrast, colour range or dot pitch of the Samsung.

You may say I'm looking at it through rose-tinted glasses, but I was so surprised by the difference between the screens I got various family members to take a look and they agreed that no matter what they did they couldn't make the LG come close to the Samsung.

Having done a little bit of Googling, it seems the peeps at Whirlpool have been recommending the Viewsonic VX2025WM and the Philips 190S7FB/S. Now 19" is too small, so any personal impressions from the Viewsonic ppl?

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m0zes 
13/8/08 9:22:19 AM
Champion
Colour accurate 21" lcd you say, that's easy go the samsung 215tw, it's a classic high quality s-pva based screen and was very popular back in supreme commanders day. Now for the tough part, it's no longer very popular so finding one is difficult. It also looks like samsung might have made a product refresh along the way and the specs now make it look like as if it now uses a tn panel. Thus you'll need to find some where that still has old stock or you'll need to confirm the type of panel the new version uses.

cheers

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thesorehead 
13/8/08 10:52:51 AM
Guru

That sucks, but thanks for the recommendation m0zes

WHY is it so hard to find a good screen? Surely the market for cheap screens with good-looking stats is saturated and manufacturers would be looking to make a buck from those of us who want that level of quality?

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m0zes 
13/8/08 1:42:53 PM
Champion
It's not hard to find a good screen, but it can be hard to find a screen that suits all your requirements. Do you think that if monitor manufacturers thought there was a large enough market for high quality smaller displays that they wouldn't make products to suit? They do but they are 24"+ size displays because that's the sizes that the majority of people want for a high quality screen. Whilst i appreciate that might not suit everybody, but the manufacturers aren't going to take the time and money to develop screens for a minority or if they do the end user ends up paying the premium for it. And there's the clincher, the premium, the majority of consumers would choose the cheaper screen regardless of whether the more expensive model was indeed worth the extra $100, because now days 22" is the entry level of screens. As such most people don't want to pay a premium at this level. I can only see this changing if higher quality panels become cheaper to manufacturer thus replacing lower quality variants or if a new high quality low cost panel is developed.

cheers


Edited by m0zes: 13/8/2008 04:59:44 PM

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thesorehead 
13/8/08 5:16:37 PM
Guru

Hrm. True. 24" is pretty much the starting size for most people who are somewhat-serious about quality.

That sucks, but only because my desk would be overwhelmed!

...hrm... I should actually check out the dimensions of some of the better 24" screens. I may just be able to fit one on...

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m0zes 
13/8/08 7:30:56 PM
Champion
Remember that these are lcd's, if you're struggling to get enough space on your desk consider using an arm mounted to your wall or desk.

cheers

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superfireydave 
14/8/08 10:01:00 AM
Titan

Quote by m0zes
Remember that these are lcd's, if you're struggling to get enough space on your desk consider using an arm mounted to your wall or desk.

cheers


If you've got a small desk space though, having a 24" right infront of your face isn't great =P

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m0zes 
14/8/08 9:05:27 PM
Champion
Quote by superfireydave
If you've got a small desk space though, having a 24" right infront of your face isn't great =P



True that, it's bloody brilliant ;)

cheers

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