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The 10 Biggest Lies In Audio
Scootsie 
9/9/08 8:54:58 PM
Master

I found this an interesting read. Thought I'd share it with the rest of the atomic community :-)

http://www.eastwoodhifi.com.au/ten%20biggest%20lies%20in%20audio.pdf

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datafast69 
9/9/08 9:21:00 PM
Titan

I was reading a thread regarding this old document over on SNA last night :)

Covers all the controversial topics in audio in one go, but is in the end just this guys opinion ;)

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Dr Doom 
9/9/08 9:26:42 PM
Disciple

Ok. I don't agree at all with that document. I've heard the difference in my shop. But I won't argue, let people believe what ever they want. I may write some stuff on this later.....

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I had a sammich in my head!

Scootsie 
9/9/08 9:36:49 PM
Master

Quote by Dr Doom
I may write some stuff on this later.....



Any input is welcome, audio's very subjective :-)

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Dr Doom 
9/9/08 9:39:52 PM
Disciple

Yes true, I do have many things to write about, having worked in the audio/video industry for many years. I used to be a reviewer too.

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I had a sammich in my head!

GlennsPref 
9/9/08 9:42:43 PM
Champion

Not a qualifying single fact, hard to believe?

And yes, audio is very speculative, coat hangers could be a bit difficult at times, but if you need wire...

I couldn't be bothered reading any more of the writers demanding whining tone at halfway through No.2

cheers, Glenn


Edited by GlennsPref: 9/9/2008 9:47:21 PM

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Dr Doom 
9/9/08 9:53:58 PM
Disciple

Yes it did seem to grate a little. I've seen numerous articles over the years, even wrote a small one myself about Hifi myths. Coat hangers FTW! Handy for pulling cables through things :D

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I had a sammich in my head!

Dr Doom 
9/9/08 9:54:48 PM
Disciple

Yes it did seem to grate a little. I've seen numerous articles over the years, even wrote a small one myself about Hifi myths. Coat hangers FTW! Handy for pulling cables through things :D

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I had a sammich in my head!

Scootsie 
9/9/08 10:05:09 PM
Master

I don't believe it was suggested that you actually use coat hangers as speaker wire :-P More it was pointing out that any suitable diameter conductor will suffice.

It doesn't help when retailers attempt to peddle expensive cables with a sale (Can't blame them, they are a business after all). What frustrates me is if I see a setup that just plain isn't fair. Although it's not on the topic of audio, I noticed a setup in my local JB-Hifi the other week attempting to show the difference between an elcheapo and Monster branded cable, except the cheap cable was connected via composite and the Monster one by component. Bose comes to mind as offenders in this field in the audio world.

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Dr Doom 
9/9/08 10:11:29 PM
Disciple

Yeah it has always been a problem, good cables are important, and as a rule of thumb you should spend about 10% of you systems total cost on cabling. As for Bose, they are just a name now, nothing more.
Nothing has really changed in the last, oh lets say, 30 years. Things are smaller, more efficient and higher in resolution, thats the only change and its a trend that will continue. Oh and Jb's are pretty good at getting you a great deal, not much else :P

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I had a sammich in my head!

komuso 
10/9/08 1:51:24 AM
Overlord

After a skim read, I agree with all those points, except maybe his comments on Nyquist theory, and his complete dismissal of tubes. Within the context of a home hifi system, tubes can tend to be a bit of a wank, but for recording music it can make a big difference, depending on the situation.

Regarding cables, I've used a lot of brands from low to high quality, and they all sound the same to me and any other engineer I've spoken to, whether its a long or short run, balanced or unbalanced. Low quality instrument cables over long runs can sound bad, but any decent cable sounds fine. The practical differences in cable lie in things like durability or suppleness. Mogami feels nice. Klotz is durable. The quality of the connectors and the solder is most important. I often use plain old 240v power cable for long balanced runs on big PAs, over fifty metres. Its never sounded different to other cable, and for those lengths its way cheaper.

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datafast69 
10/9/08 3:10:07 AM
Titan

"Within the context of a home hifi system, tubes can tend to be a bit of a wank"

We have listened to very different tube amps then my friend :D

I think most of that PDF is a wank, not all but a seriously big chunk of it, I think the guy that wrote it is definitely tone deaf ;)


Edited by datafast69: 10/9/2008 03:17:41 AM

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Electra 
10/9/08 7:16:28 AM
Disciple

The best place for tubes is home hifi.
Using them in PA systems could well be an expensive wank.

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