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TheSecret 
4/8/08 10:17:40 PM
Master
SquallStrife,

I was aware of the WPE option, but was wondering if it was actually feasible to have a full windows install run of a cd, as opposed to just a rescue disc sort of deal.

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aliali 
5/8/08 9:52:40 AM
SuperHero
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Quote by TheSecret
SquallStrife,

I was aware of the WPE option, but was wondering if it was actually feasible to have a full windows install run of a cd, as opposed to just a rescue disc sort of deal.


Bartspe (nu2) and UBCD4win are both "full" windows with GUI, file managers and a load of other stuff.
By default UBCD4Win has a load of tools pre-installed as listed here
http://www.ubcd4win.com/contents.htm
BartsPE also comes with some pre-configured applications plus there are a load of plugins you can install when creating the boot disk.
http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/plugins/

I always have one of each handy for PC repairs.

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SquallStrife 
5/8/08 11:40:30 AM
Titan

Yeah, BartPE, which I did mention.

I think there are even methods of splipstreaming your sound and video drivers in, so you could possibly game with it.

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TheSecret 
5/8/08 12:55:18 PM
Master
Guys,

I think you are both misunderstanding me. Each of those bootcd's are comprehensive, and can give you a fairly complete windows experience, they are still missing the functionality and completeness of a full install. That is what I was wondering if it was possible to duplicate, and if it is possible, it is not currently done, and I suppose it won't be while there is no need.

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Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.

SquallStrife 
5/8/08 4:25:15 PM
Titan

In that case, I think you are misunderstanding what live CDs are for, and how they work.

BartPE can get to like 99% of an "installed" Windows XP copy (including things like IE, Windows Explorer, and the various accessories like Paint and Wordpad), much like how a live Linux CD is 99% of an "installed" Linux. There are things you just can't, or wouldn't do for various reasons, usually space and performance ones.

I think you underestimate just how complete BartPE can be.

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The ONLY fuel saving benefit of this product, is that the car expends less energy to accelerate, because your wallet is lighter.

TheSecret 
5/8/08 8:42:12 PM
Master
I am not missunderstaning anything.

A live CD is not specifically defined, and at it's most simple definition it just runs an operating system from external media instead of internal storage. They can be used to run a complete system just as much to restore one. I was wondering if something was possibly technically, which while it may be, has no need. It was a technical curiosity, which was misinterpreted. Doesn't matter, all is good.

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Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.

eckythump 
7/8/08 6:33:34 PM
Overlord

You may have "cleaned" it, but I wouldn't be 100% confident that it's all good.

I certainly wouldn't ever use internet banking on that machine.

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aliali 
18/8/08 10:26:39 AM
SuperHero
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Quote by TheSecret
I am not missunderstaning anything.

A live CD is not specifically defined, and at it's most simple definition it just runs an operating system from external media instead of internal storage. They can be used to run a complete system just as much to restore one. I was wondering if something was possibly technically, which while it may be, has no need. It was a technical curiosity, which was misinterpreted. Doesn't matter, all is good.


Not really sure what you mean, but I will assume a live cd that has all the relevant drivers and stuff so you can run 3d apps and the like. Yes it should be possible by slipstreaming in the specific drivers to the live cd, but it would still be godawful slow as you are limited to how fast the cd/dvd can be read and info stored to the ram drive.
Some internet Kiosks use a custom live cd to run the OS on a cut down PC that has no hard drive. This means no files or anything can be saved to the kiosk which is a damn good idea for a public machine.

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hulkster 
21/8/08 9:11:56 PM
Mod
SuperHero

Immortal


http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/malware-removal/remove-antivirus-xp-2008

That's the bugger you're dealing with.just doing the same on a gentlemans computer.

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