Caelum
24/7/06 9:49:31 PM
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Originally by me at: http://forums.speedlabs.org/index.php?topic=1487
Those of us who have played with Microsoft Vista, and its Remote Desktop client mstsc.exe, and also use a wide screen display, have found that it has one major advantage over the standard Windows XP Pro mstsc.exe RDP client.
yep, thats right, unlike the normal Microsoft Windows XP mstsc binary, the Vista version of that binary allows for the full use of your computer screen if you own one of the fantastic widescreen displays, like the Dell models, or other such devices.
How do i install it though?!? just replacing your mstsc.exe with the vista version just ends up in errors!
Here's how:
(x86 systems)
1) Download this zip file: http://zerospace.homeip.net/vistatsc/vista-mstsc-x86.zip (1.3MB)
2) Rename these two files(incase anything goes wrong): mstsc.exe, and mstscax.dll, both in your windows\system32 directory.
3) Copy and paste the new Vista versions of mstsc.exe and mstscax.dll, into your system32 directory.
4) In your system32 directory, create a new directory called "en-US" without the quotes.
5) Copy and paste mstsc.exe.mui and mstscax.dll.mui, into the en-US directory
6) Run mstsc.exe as per normal, and enjoy the new features allowed by the Microsoft Vista Remote Desktop client.
7) Enjoy!
If you're running Microsoft Windows XP x64, then instead of using the mstsc.exe in the zip file above, you'll need to use a Microsoft Vista x64 mstsc.exe, as the 32bit version doesn't seem work.
Edited by Caelum: 24/7/2006 9:50:46 PM -----
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iamthemaxx
24/7/06 10:13:57 PM
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Nice nice nice.
It was starting to shit me with all that screen space going to waste. -----
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Caelum
24/7/06 10:22:32 PM
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yeah exactly... it pissed me off bigtime, hence, i thought a quick ugly hack like this may do just the trick :)
i'd been thinking about it for nearly a month now, since i got into Beta2, finally got around to giving it a go, and after some fiddling, googling, and more testing, this is the result...
1920x1200 resolution remote desktop... sweet :D -----
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linke
25/7/06 10:11:21 AM
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What's the res that it becomes an issue?
I've got a 20" Dell widescreen and it works fine. Mind you it's 1680x1050 so I guess it must be somewhere above that it cracks the sads.
I'm moving to a 24" in the next few weeks so this will come in handy. Cheers. -----
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bastard
25/7/06 10:19:45 AM
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Excellent work :)
Edit --> For those of you with system file protection on you will have to put the mstsc.exe and the .dll in the c:\windows\system32\dllcache folder also and cancel the request to revert back to XP files.
Edited by bastard: 25/7/2006 10:34:15 AM -----
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Caelum
25/7/06 10:50:23 AM
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thanks for that additional information bastard :)
thats one thing i didn't consider, not using it myself.
linke - i use a dell 24", at 1920 x 1200, and when connecting to my server it changes the res to 1600x1200, so i'm guessing the limit has something to do with the x1200.
i get the full height, but not full width, when using the windows XP mstsc.exe -----
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Masha
26/7/06 8:39:46 AM
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Check iShadow Desktop from www.ishadow.com - with RDP6 their app works like a charm. I think max resolution is 4096x2048. -----
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bastard
26/7/06 1:24:27 PM
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Doesn't Ishadow cost money though? -----
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Caelum
31/7/06 12:51:52 AM
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ohhh... just found something else which i think is kinda cool using the vista RDP client...
the sound quality is increased dramatically, when playing audio on the server, but relaying it to your local computer...
obviously this is only possible with high bandwidth or LAN connections, but kinda nifty none the less :) -----
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thedriver
3/8/06 11:54:39 AM
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Caelum - you the bomb man!
We've had a client pestering us for ages about this.... didn't matter what I told him, everytime I'd see him he'd say "How about the full screen for thin client?"
Everytime I'd respond "Sorry, can't be done?"
And you've proved me wrong, so now I look like an idiot in front of the client - well, gee, thanks Caelum.
No really - top work. I'll use this too, 1920x1200 would be awesome in RDP.
Edited by thedriver: 3/8/2006 11:55:21 AM -----
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Caelum
3/8/06 5:27:48 PM
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absolutely...
at home my workstation is the 2405fpw dell, and i RDP into my server, and use it for about 4+ hours a night, so this was REALLY bugging me...
i tried out windows vista for about a week, and this was one of the nifty things i found...
it was only a hunch to begin with, not being sure if it was in the client side, or the server side, turns out the client side was the limiting factor, not the TSC, so now we get widescreen RDP's ;)
sure, it is an ugly hack, and it MAY not be legal - backwards engineering or some such? - but it works! -----
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neX
17/8/06 1:47:14 PM
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OOH! Gotta try this on my Dell Inspiron 9400 - 7900GS goodness and native 1920*1200 res! -----
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B1n0ry
23/8/06 11:35:10 PM
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Umm, I have widescreen RDP goodness with XP. It's pretty simple.
1. Run MSTSC.EXE and fill in your connection details. Don't worry about resolution at the moment, set it to anything, 800x600 maybe.
2. Do a Save As, save the settings to a .RDP file
3. That .RDP file is just text! Open it up in Notepad and change the screen dimensions from 800x600 to whatever you want. 1920x1200. 1273x917. ANYTHING.
4. Profit. -----
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confined
30/8/06 12:22:03 AM
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Quote by B1n0ry
Umm, I have widescreen RDP goodness with XP. It's pretty simple.
1. Run MSTSC.EXE and fill in your connection details. Don't worry about resolution at the moment, set it to anything, 800x600 maybe.
2. Do a Save As, save the settings to a .RDP file
3. That .RDP file is just text! Open it up in Notepad and change the screen dimensions from 800x600 to whatever you want. 1920x1200. 1273x917. ANYTHING.
4. Profit.
Vista however, is a completely different operating system. -----
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B1n0ry
1/9/06 5:05:17 PM
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Quote by confined
Vista however, is a completely different operating system.
Yes. And?
I was just saying that if the only reason you want to go to the effort of getting the Vista version of RDP running on XP is the widescreen screen resolutions, there is an easier way. -----
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Caelum
4/9/06 1:21:50 PM
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sometimes the simplest solutions are the best, hey? :)
thanks for that B1n0ry, makes things easier for those that dont have access to a Vista version of RDP.
not to say that the vista version doesn't have its place, with a few additional features and security etc...
none the less, if just going for widescreen, and only using that .RDP file on one computer, B1n0ry's solution is far cleaner, IMO.
cheers :) -----
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jessbryant
8/11/06 3:23:06 AM
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I know this is an old post...but I have a question about this:
I was able to install the Vista TS Client on my WinXP machine. I choose 32 bit color resolution for my connection. The problem is, the computer i'm trying to connect to is also a Windows XP machine. And the max color depth is 24 bit. Is there any way to over-ride this? Or do I seriously need to wait for an official update to be released?
Jessica
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Those of us who have played with Microsoft Vista, and its Remote Desktop client mstsc.exe, and also use a wide screen display, have found that it has one major advantage over the standard Windows XP Pro mstsc.exe RDP client.
yep, thats right, unlike the normal Microsoft Windows XP mstsc binary, the Vista version of that binary allows for the full use of your computer screen if you own one of the fantastic widescreen displays, like the Dell models, or other such devices.
How do i install it though?!? just replacing your mstsc.exe with the vista version just ends up in errors!
Here's how:
(x86 systems)
1) Download this zip file: http://zerospace.homeip.net/vistatsc/vista-mstsc-x86.zip (1.3MB)
2) Rename these two files(incase anything goes wrong): mstsc.exe, and mstscax.dll, both in your windows\system32 directory.
3) Copy and paste the new Vista versions of mstsc.exe and mstscax.dll, into your system32 directory.
4) In your system32 directory, create a new directory called "en-US" without the quotes.
5) Copy and paste mstsc.exe.mui and mstscax.dll.mui, into the en-US directory
6) Run mstsc.exe as per normal, and enjoy the new features allowed by the Microsoft Vista Remote Desktop client.
7) Enjoy!
If you're running Microsoft Windows XP x64, then instead of using the mstsc.exe in the zip file above, you'll need to use a Microsoft Vista x64 mstsc.exe, as the 32bit version doesn't seem work.
Edited by Caelum: 24/7/2006 9:50:46 PM -----
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bastard
8/11/06 1:18:56 PM
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Hi Jess,
Without looking into it I think you'll find it is a limitation of the terminal session running from the windows XP server end rather than the client. -----
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Caelum
8/11/06 11:00:28 PM
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that is a possibility, but one i've not checked.
one thing i'll ask aswell, does your client machine run in 24 or 32bit colour mode?
obviously the TS Session will only run at the max that the client can display it at. -----
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jessbryant
10/11/06 2:14:19 AM
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Both ends are running 32-bit True color. The machine acting as the "server" is not really a server - it is a windows XP professional, sp2 computer. When I go into the Local Computer Policy to configure the "Limit maximum color depth Properties" - I changed it to Color Depth: Client Compatible. However, the blurb off to the left of that window says that "The current maximum color depth for Terminal Server and Remote Desktop connections is 24 bit". So I guess my question/curiosity is, why did they make an RDP client that supports 32-bit color, if the terminal services server can't support it? I'm dying to find a way around this!!! Starting to drive me crazy ;-) -----
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