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A question about selling XP
fiddler 
25/8/08 10:12:28 AM
Master

I've got a spare copy of Windows XP Home. I originally had it installed on a machine at home but it's now using Ubuntu. I've still got the original COA as well as the case sticker which I managed to peel off the case!

My question: Can I legally sell the XP disk + docs? It has already been activated on my home PC but is now not being used. What do you guys think?

Considering the fact *I* own it, I'd like to think I can sell it ... but maybe Bill thinks differently.

Edit: Ah, I've just found this (see question #6):
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/xpfaq.html#6

My copy of XP is OEM. Has anyone on here sold an OEM copy to someone else and had it activated OK? I can't see how M$ can legally prevent this!


Edited by fiddler: 25/8/2008 10:21:34 AM

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gazdude67 
25/8/08 10:34:02 AM
Serf
Hi Fiddler,

Someone may correct me If I'm wrong, but I my way of thinking is as follows:

OEM software must stay with the original system, ie if the system dies and is disposed of so does the software, If you keep the main parts of the system case board CPU you can reload the software back after you have done an upgrade.( HDD memory etc)

Retail software you have purchased through say Harris / Office Works or the alike is transferable, we often at work, will scrap a whole system and build a new one, all our OS Software was purchased before I started there and it's all Retail versions, so I just reload the software and have never had any problems.( stickers are all still stuck to the software) The one Problem that I have had was when one of the IBM black box systems HDD died, The bright sparke that purchased these systems didn't get the OS disk with them. I did have a problem with this, ended up having to do a registry hack and using one of the retail OS disks and doing a reload that way, this system is now correct and tells me that it IS registered to the attached box sticker.

When we/ if we change over to vista I will think about getting a OS pack for all the machines at the one time, I seem to recall that this works out cheaper in the long run>

Cheer's

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Lambo 
25/8/08 11:33:15 AM
SuperHero
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Can you sell an already activated OEM copy of windows pre installed on ahother PC?

Easy answer. No. You can't. OEM = 1 license, for the PC it's activated on. You can sell it as long as it's with the PC it was installed on as well.

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fiddler 
25/8/08 11:40:18 AM
Master

Anyone else think this is a bit unfair? Or is it just me?

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Master_Scythe 
25/8/08 12:46:04 PM
Titan

no, everyone hates it.

and to be perfectly blunt.

sell it, it'll refuse to activate, you phone MS, they ask how many PCs its installed on, you say just this on, and they give you your code

every time.

See although the EULA prevets it, and thusly makes it illegal, MS really only cares if you're pirating their shit, not if you're breaking the eula.

So, although illegal, its pretty common practice.
however ONE PC ONLY, and this is still technically illegal.

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Waltish 
25/8/08 3:24:08 PM
Hero
Titan


Its not illegal, but it does breach their EULA which has never been enforced in a court.... it may well be the EULA that is illegal.
{:))

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Master_Scythe 
25/8/08 7:55:36 PM
Titan

yeah. as much as hes rubbed many of us the wrong way, ask TheSecret why EULA's arent binding. hes said it once before and cited links.

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Lambo 
25/8/08 9:46:33 PM
SuperHero
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Quote by fiddler
Anyone else think this is a bit unfair? Or is it just me?



That's why there is OEM and retail. If you wish to do license transfers then buy retail windows instead of OEM.

OEM is intended for the the system builder for new PC's. Not for end users.

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Master_Scythe 
27/8/08 11:48:06 AM
Titan

Quote by Lambo
Quote by fiddler
Anyone else think this is a bit unfair? Or is it just me?



That's why there is OEM and retail. If you wish to do license transfers then buy retail windows instead of OEM.

OEM is intended for the the system builder for new PC's. Not for end users.



Yet they ship OEM with 'new systems' that END USERS buy.

The EULA vs 'how its used' is pretty poor there.

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Lambo 
27/8/08 4:34:57 PM
SuperHero
Immortal


Quote by Master_Scythe
Quote by Lambo
Quote by fiddler
Anyone else think this is a bit unfair? Or is it just me?



That's why there is OEM and retail. If you wish to do license transfers then buy retail windows instead of OEM.

OEM is intended for the the system builder for new PC's. Not for end users.



Yet they ship OEM with 'new systems' that END USERS buy.

The EULA vs 'how its used' is pretty poor there.



Wouldn't say I disagree. Just telling it like it is.

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