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His Billness declares, "Less memory and more efficiency" from Windows 7
LordBug 
16/5/08 7:28:23 PM
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I certainly hope that W7 is to Vista as XP was to ME. Well, throw in a bit more stability at release, keep the classic GUI alive, and then I'd be quite happy.


Vista has always been excellent in regards to stability, I can't see any link between it and the abortion that is Windows ME.

I heard that Windows 7 will be a different UI all together, time will tell.



Ahh, but if it's like I said, then W7 will be jaw-droppingly good. I likening the difference between the OSes, as opposed to the product itself ;)

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SceptreCore 
16/5/08 7:47:55 PM
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Currently supposed screenshots of W7 looks just like Vista, they are either illegitimate knock-ups, Windows 7 GUI will look the same as Vista, or the screenshots is actually Widnows 7, but it is currently using the Vista GUI, and will later have one developed for it!

But who knows?

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bluedude 
16/5/08 8:35:22 PM
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"We're hard at work, I would say, [doesn't sound very confident?] on the next version, which we call Windows 7. I'm very excited about the work being done there. The ability to be lower power, take less memory, be more efficient, and have lots more connections up to the mobile phone, so those scenarios connect up well to make it a great platform for the best gaming that can be done, to connect up to the thing being done out on the Internet, [ - what the FUCK is this man saying?] so that, for example, if you have two personal computers, that your files automatically are synchronized between them, and so you don't have a lot of work to move that data back and forth. "

-edited

That is an absolutely terrible sentence (read; an absolutely typical Microsoft sentence). And "Windows 7 will take less memory, be more efficient", meaning what, Windows 7 will support less memory? Or take up less memory (or in better words, "require less memory").


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For you, I think Ubuntu would be good, because of your background in computers and you being a system admin, but for someone like me who is used to the workings of a nice GUI, I can't stand it.



"Nice GUI"? As in what, transparency, jelly effects and rounded corners?

Vista, maybe, (depending on your style) has the "G" in "GUI", but no way in hell has it got the "UI". The Vista UI is inconsistent, bloated, over-designed and almost backwards in how a human being expects to or should expect to interact with a computer.

It's like Microsoft have this amazing ability to go backwards in their innovation while still reaping profit.


Quote by ShiroKage
the article says the guy who was in charge of office 2007 is in charge of windows 7... abandon ship!



You mean the lady, Julie Larson-Green? http://apcmag.com/new_user_interface_for_windows_7.htm



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SceptreCore 
16/5/08 8:52:58 PM
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Quote by bluedude
You mean the lady, Julie Larson-Green? http://apcmag.com/new_user_interface_for_windows_7.htm



Nah Steve Sinofsky is in charge, he got that lady in because of the great job she did in re-inventing Office 2007 UI... Im hoping that something just as radical with a positive change will happen!

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zebra 
16/5/08 9:08:44 PM
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Quote by Fat_Bodybuilder
For you, I think Ubuntu would be good, because of your background in computers and you being a system admin, but for someone like me who is used to the workings of a nice GUI, I can't stand it.



Whoah whoah whoah. Ubuntu has one of the nicest GUI's I've come across [short of switching to a Mac].

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if the next version of Windows looked similar to the screenshots of Windows Mobile 7. Would be sexy actually.


Edited by Girvo: 16/5/2008 04:35:36 PM



The difference is Mac's "nice" GUI is non-functional and inefficient.



...and you've read and understand all 600 pages of the core HCI guidelines?

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bobbobson 
17/5/08 11:30:33 AM
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bobbobson 
17/5/08 11:35:20 AM
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Quote by SceptreCore
Currently supposed screenshots of W7 looks just like Vista, they are either illegitimate knock-ups, Windows 7 GUI will look the same as Vista, or the screenshots is actually Widnows 7, but it is currently using the Vista GUI, and will later have one developed for it!

But who knows?



Well when I started playing with Vista alphas many years ago the Vista UI looked nothing like what it does now so your obvious guess is probably right in that the UI that they're using now is merely for practicality

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SceptreCore 
17/5/08 1:43:49 PM
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Quote by bobbobson
Well when I started playing with Vista alphas many years ago the Vista UI looked nothing like what it does now so your obvious guess is probably right in that the UI that they're using now is merely for practicality



Well it's in the hands of their corporate partners... so I guess they needed something for the user to interact with it :P

With this new team, hopefully fresh ideas will prevail, and we will get many enjoyable experiences from Win7... but then again, Im an optimist! :)

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F117_Nighthawk 
17/5/08 8:30:37 PM
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I started using the Vista/Longhorn beta leaks pretty much as soon as they were released years ago.

Things would have been so much better if Microsoft stuck to Longhorn, especially the 4093 UI, that was the sex. I remember from 2005-2006 when there were updates of Microsoft removing all the good features that made Longhorn, Avalon being one of my favorite. For the past few years ive also skinned my XP to emulate Longhorn

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hulkster 
17/5/08 9:03:28 PM
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It makes me laugh when people bag out vista.I'm a big fan.It hasn't let me down yet.
Looking forward to the next generation of windows.

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.:Cyb3rGlitch:. 
17/5/08 9:08:12 PM
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Quote by hulkster
It makes me laugh when people bag out vista.I'm a big fan.It hasn't let me down yet.
Looking forward to the next generation of windows.


Thank you!

If my old Athlon x@ 4400+ (939) and 7900GT can run it with no problems, then any new PC can too. Yeah, there's issues with compatibility, but that's usually the vendors fault. e.g. Creative.

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SceptreCore 
17/5/08 9:15:10 PM
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Quote by hulkster
It makes me laugh when people bag out vista.I'm a big fan.It hasn't let me down yet.
Looking forward to the next generation of windows.



Ive had trouble with Vista, So Im thinking of going over to it when SP2 comes out (just my way) because even though Win7 sounds exciting, it's not going to be perfect straight away... so it doesn't matter if Im not using it when it's first released

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Girvo 
27/5/08 10:23:35 AM
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Quote by SceptreCore
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Pfft. It has Synaptic Package Manager. So it wins. :P



And what is so special about that?



I don't have to go looking all over the net for programs? :P

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SceptreCore 
27/5/08 10:24:16 PM
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Quote by Girvo
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Pfft. It has Synaptic Package Manager. So it wins. :P



And what is so special about that?



I don't have to go looking all over the net for programs? :P



Well good for you mate, Im happy for ya! :P

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wilsontc 
28/5/08 3:39:54 PM
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Quote by Athiril
The difference is Mac's "nice" GUI is non-functional and inefficient.



Just because you can't use it, doesn't mean that other people share the same views. I quite like it; I find it takes up a lot less screen space than Windows, and most apps have minimizable and customizable tool bars. Windows doesn't have this concept at all. Plus the CS3 and Office 2008 apps have floating windown palletes, which is a lot more flexible when you have a second monitor such as I. Besides, as a designer I would have thought that the accurate colour replication & screen calibration would have convinced you alone.

But there's more to an OS than just it's GUI. Something that has frustrated me for years was the lack of a decent command line on the Windows platform. Ultimately it was for this reason that I moved to Macintosh.

The biggest make or break factor for Win7 in my opinion will be hardware compatibility. I don't think the "Vista compatible" stickers will be abused again this time (ie non Aero hardware being sold as 'compatible'), but there were a lot of other issues too. Sure, this is the fault of hardware vendors, but Microsoft needs to get support from printer, graphics, sound etc vendors for release, not 6 months later. People don't get angry at Creative when their sound card doesn't work...they get angry at MS; "But it worked in XP!"


Edited by wilsontc: 28/5/2008 3:41:18 PM

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PC FREAK 
29/5/08 12:56:19 AM
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Quote by SquallStrife
I'm using Mac OS X 10.5.2 for most of my day-to-day stuff now. I've found OS X way more hassle-free than any Linux I've ever used... and VMware fusion is orgasmic.

I'll try Windows 7... but I think my affair with Redmond is rapidly waning.


Edited by SquallStrife: 16/5/2008 8:18:18 AM



Yip OSX it is :D

Runs nicely on quad core too.

EDIT: bobbson dont double post. Vista fails epically for me just shits me to tears. XP SP2 is slower but works for me.


Edited by PC FREAK: 29/5/2008 1:03:42 AM

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SceptreCore 
29/5/08 1:15:05 AM
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Quote by PC FREAK
Yip OSX it is :D

Runs nicely on quad core too.

EDIT: bobbson dont double post. Vista fails epically for me just shits me to tears. XP SP2 is slower but works for me.


Im not sure, but can you just install OSX on any machine you build, or do you need Apple specified hardware?

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SceptreCore 
29/5/08 12:03:57 PM
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Im gonna double post, oh well it's my thread! :P

Here in this link a demo video shows Windows 7 will be using multi-touch.

If and when I get my hands on this.... that's the first thing I will disable

http://d6.allthingsd.com/20080527/gates_ballmer/


Edited by SceptreCore: 29/5/2008 12:04:33 PM

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Marxland, Minister Of The Treasury, Minister Of Uber Coolness and Brother Number Two

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." - Albert Einstein

PC FREAK 
29/5/08 5:20:16 PM
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Dont think your meant too but its not hard and no hacks required :)

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SceptreCore 
29/5/08 5:40:19 PM
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Yes but I truly see no advantage in it's use.... it's simply impractical... and think of how annoying it would be, and how many problems it would have!

Besides I think that they would include the option to disable it... don't you?


Edited by SceptreCore: 29/5/2008 5:40:30 PM

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