General Morpheus
11/3/07 2:41:11 PM
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I wanted to post here to warn people not to believe Microsoft's claim that Vista is the most reliable, secure and feature-complete version of Windows.
I have only had Vista installed for about a month and it has the following problems:
- its blue-screen shutdown happens between four and seven times a day whilst running only Word (yes this is the retail version not a beta)
- When on battery power it gives no ETA, says i have 72% battery left whist saying both my tablets batteries are 'not present' despite them being in device manager
- it sometimes gets stuck on the 'shutting down' screen for hours -- making me force shut it down
- if the computer goes into standby/sleep/... and you wake it up it will lost connexion to the network and you will have to reboot the machine to get it back
- on the connectivity note the utility for it constantly freezes
- Windows option to dim the screen to save power simply does not work, and there is no control over it
- i cant access any other computers on my network, and i am trying...
- and the list really does go on...
I really am quite disappointed with Microsoft, and i am starting to think it must just be my copy that is faulty because no one could release a product with this many faults. Anyway if any of you can recommend any way to help i would be very appreciative
Cheers
Morph
ps this was a clean install -----
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supam
11/3/07 4:03:32 PM
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Well I've only been using it 3 days but I haven't had any of those problems at all. -----
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D10N1S10
11/3/07 4:30:04 PM
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Im not a fan of vista either but half the problems u have said may be hardware problems. Is it a new laptop? and what specs? -----
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General Morpheus
11/3/07 6:30:34 PM
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Oh yeah and the mousepad often does not work, and sometimes the screen does not work when it returns from standby
No its not new but it worked perfectly with Windows XP -- its an acer c303xmi
cheers -----
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makaveli
11/3/07 6:57:14 PM
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i've been running vista on my notebook since its release. i havent had any of the problems you described although i admit about the screen brightness which sux. my notebook is a dell inspiron 9300 (2ghz cpu, 1gig ram and is about 1 1/2 years old) -----
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.:Cyb3rGlitch:.
11/3/07 7:34:09 PM
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Quote by D10N1S10
Im not a fan of vista either but half the problems u have said may be hardware problems. Is it a new laptop? and what specs?
+1. Sounds like some sort of hardware fault. -----
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iamthemaxx
11/3/07 11:12:47 PM
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Quote by .:Cyb3rGlitch:.
Quote by D10N1S10
Im not a fan of vista either but half the problems u have said may be hardware problems. Is it a new laptop? and what specs?
+1. Sounds like some sort of hardware fault.
+1 Drivers are at fault here, not Vista. -----
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Mac Dude
13/3/07 3:11:27 PM
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what did Windows Vista Upgrade Advisor tell you? what did the acer site tell you about vista support? -----
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The_Hawk
14/3/07 2:05:14 PM
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The wifes current lappy is 12 months old, BenQ R53 (Pentium M 1.73, 1GB RAM, x600). Considering you can still buy PC's that are lower specced than this you would think it works... but nope.
Being that this modem isn't specifically Vista supported, many of the drivers I had to use were generic drivers, like Inel drivers for the mainboard (which in theory should work).
*most* things had to be installed manually.
Then when everything was up and running it was working DAMN well, the big stumbling block that made it turn back to XP... the battery. Vista didn't recognise the unit had a battery and no driver I could find would gix it, generic or otherwise. What this meant, besides not knowing how much battery you had left, was that Windows basically run at full throttle and killed the battery in very little time...
well, that or for some reason it wasn't charging. On this model the lights are blue/orange, blue for charged, orange for charging (or running on batts), under vista the batt lights kept flashing orange when plugged in, which made me think it wasn't charging. Weird considering charging a battery shouldn't be driver based.
To the point, some hardware just doesn't want to play nice with Vista, Intel 915 chipsets seem to be high on that list. Even if you have a relatively new lappy Vista may not work.
I should add that I'm running Vista HP on the machine in my sig with little or no major issues. Yes a few things have been problems, but nothing major and nothing I haven't been able to resolve. The few crashes I have had has been when attempting to use applications that are not Vista certified.
Edited by The_Hawk: 14/3/2007 2:06:45 PM -----
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General Morpheus
15/3/07 3:33:26 PM
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its not hardware... my computer worked perfectly in XP without any errors ever, period!
Drivers may be it but its pretty basic stuff this common and recent laptop has. But the MS recommendation update thing explicitly said my computer would be able to upgrade without any problems, other than no vid card means no aero. But no other problems. And a clean install kills any software blame (the computer still memory dump blue screens on a startup with no non-MS services running and nothing in the sratup group items starting!!!!!!!!).
As far as i am concerned it checked all my hardware components in the laptop and it gave it the all clear. If it does not have working drivers for my laptops hardware, as far as i am concerned they should not recommend I upgrade!
Its clearly Vista. -----
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Lambo
15/3/07 4:09:31 PM
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Quote by General Morpheus
its not hardware... my computer worked perfectly in XP without any errors ever, period!
Drivers may be it but its pretty basic stuff this common and recent laptop has. But the MS recommendation update thing explicitly said my computer would be able to upgrade without any problems, other than no vid card means no aero. But no other problems. And a clean install kills any software blame (the computer still memory dump blue screens on a startup with no non-MS services running and nothing in the sratup group items starting!!!!!!!!).
As far as i am concerned it checked all my hardware components in the laptop and it gave it the all clear. If it does not have working drivers for my laptops hardware, as far as i am concerned they should not recommend I upgrade!
Its clearly Vista.
You do realise the upgrade advisor looks at your hardware for suitability, nor 'Gee does all this hardware have drivers for Vista'. The idea that MS should have to do that is rather silly sorry. -----
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bastard
15/3/07 7:33:38 PM
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Quote by General Morpheus
its not hardware... my computer worked perfectly in XP without any errors ever, period!
So this Acer laptop, you installed it using the custom Windows XP installation from Acer? As in it had all the modified vendor supplied installation CD with custom drivers specifically designed to work on the laptop?
Did you purchase your Vista upgrade from them? Or is it off the shelf without the custom Acer drivers?
You haven't mentioned that you downloaded the Acer support drivers from their web site http://www.acersupport.com.au (which incedentally, is down right now.)
But I will put this bluntly: It is a compatability problem between your setup and Vista. But if it a driver problem, then it is your hardware vendors fault ie. Acer. -----
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Slace
16/3/07 9:44:46 AM
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Quote by Lambo
Quote by General Morpheus
its not hardware... my computer worked perfectly in XP without any errors ever, period!
Drivers may be it but its pretty basic stuff this common and recent laptop has. But the MS recommendation update thing explicitly said my computer would be able to upgrade without any problems, other than no vid card means no aero. But no other problems. And a clean install kills any software blame (the computer still memory dump blue screens on a startup with no non-MS services running and nothing in the sratup group items starting!!!!!!!!).
As far as i am concerned it checked all my hardware components in the laptop and it gave it the all clear. If it does not have working drivers for my laptops hardware, as far as i am concerned they should not recommend I upgrade!
Its clearly Vista.
You do realise the upgrade advisor looks at your hardware for suitability, nor 'Gee does all this hardware have drivers for Vista'. The idea that MS should have to do that is rather silly sorry.
Like Lambo has pointed out your comment is rather dumb.
Laptops are particularly finiky about the hardware they use, this can be clearly seen from linux attempting to build in laptop support.
Vista gave your computer the all clear in terms of the hardware capabilitys, not the driver capabilities. It is up to the companies (or in your case Acer) to ensure that they have drivers for Vista. -----
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mockier
16/3/07 11:06:53 PM
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This is definitely a driver issue.
1. First check the Acer downloads page for Vista drivers.
http://secure2.tx.acer.com/VistaDownloads/AcerSeries.aspx
2. Open device Manager and update the drivers for anything that has not got Vista drivers on the ACER site. Test after each one to make sure it improves stability.
3. Google: acer c303xmi vista. Check out any forums where users are discussing drivers, this is a good way to find workarounds/beta drivers etc. (I found my Audio and Bluetooth drivers this way).
4. Search the chipset manufactur websites for each device to see if they have beta drivers. Google them as well, beta drivers may be hidden in support pages/forumns.
5. Any remaining devices that have no Vista drivers available, or that are obviously unstable, should be disabled if possible. Check for new drivers every now and then for those devices.
If you still find that your device is unstable then I recoment backing up data and using the guide in this forumn to do a fresh install of Vista, as if you did an upgrade from XP then there could be some Acer XP apps/drivers/dlls still on the system. Also there could be other leftover apps like system utilities, benchmarks, games, or software that isn't 100% compatable with Vista. That could cause instability/blue screens.
Welcome to the Vista Beta Testing community. I hope that this helps you to resolve the problems.
EDIT Added 10:41
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- if the computer goes into standby/sleep/... and you wake it up it will lost connexion to the network and you will have to reboot the machine to get it back</qoute>
There is a power saving setting for this device, you should set it to always on to fix this.
Alternatively have you tried unplugging it and plugging it back in?
Or rightclick(the network connection)>restore
With not being able to detect other computers on the network there is a setting for that as well.
(network discovery?)
Which version of Vista are you running?
Edited by mockier: 16/3/2007 11:21:19 PM
Edited by mockier: 16/3/2007 11:27:21 PM -----
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Sir Mean Mr. Mustard
17/3/07 12:11:14 AM
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Unless you can ensure your PC had vista drivers.. and many are beta atm, dont install vista then blame problems on vista when its the drivers faut... iv been using it for weeks with no probles :) -----
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