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robzy 
3/8/08 9:56:50 PM
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Well, it would appear as though my trust keyboard of 10 years is dying. The arrow/numpad/insert/home keys are getting fussy. I just found out that my "pile'o'change" added up to $100, so taking out $35 for a new DVD burner that leaves me with $65 for a new keyboard.

What does one look for in a keyboard nowadays though?

I'm not much of a gamer or anything, so don't need anything too funky. Just something with a well thought out layout and good feel.

Rob.

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TheFrunj 
3/8/08 10:22:03 PM
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Well a keyboard is pretty subjective, so your best bet would be to go to a local store and see if they have any on display.

If not, then you'll just have to googleise reviews :)

Dunno where you're buying from, but the only thing that fits the bill from PCCG is the Logitech Media 600, which looks decent:
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=113_257&products_id=6954

The only drawback as far as I can tell is that the keys are shorter, more like a laptop, and the media controls at the top look kind of cheap.

I personally use the Saitek Eclipse II, and it has lasted me for about two and a half years of heavy use, and has remained in very good nick. There's only one spot where signs of wear have begun to show on the paintwork, and the keys are as clear as they were when I first opened the packaging. The only downside is that it's $20 more than you're looking to spend. It's also very comfortable to type on for extended periods of time.

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mohawk 
3/8/08 10:30:35 PM
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OEM Logitech Desktop 250 for $15 OEM Logitech Internet 350 for $22 both from MSY.

I just picked up the 350 today for my mum and a mate of mine has been using 250 for about 6 months with no problems at all. The only difference between the 2 boards is that the 350 has basic internet and multimedia hotkeys. Both come with a basic 2 button optical mouse which will be good as a back up if the main one dies.

Both feel and look good and are pretty quite as well. IMO, very good value at a really good price.

Pic of the 250,
http://www.gamedude.com.au/prod_show.php?art_no=keyLOdeluxe_250

Pic of the 350,
http://www.gamedude.com.au/prod_show.php?art_no=keyLOinternet_350


Edited by mohawk: 3/8/2008 10:39:37 PM

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robzy 
3/8/08 11:22:40 PM
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Yeah, I realise that keyboards are pretty subject. I'm just not quite sure where to start when it comes to shopping for one. Perhaps suggestions of hardware review sites that have done some keyboards would be in order?

Logitech Media 600: Looks decent, but (I think) I want to stay away from laptop keys.

Saitek Eclipse II: Looks very decent, only issue I have is that I am not a fan of the aesthetics :S I like things to be, a little more normal and boring tbh. Backlit keys are cool though.

As for the price, I'm looking to spend $65 but I view this as an investment and as such am open to other suggestions.

As for the Logitech 250/350, again they look like decent keyboards which I wouldn't have any complaints with. But I'm leaning towards something a bit more upmarket (assuming I can find anything). [edit]: Of course, I do look at the Logitech keyboards posted so far and wonder "Why not just go for one of those and end the search now?"

(By the way, please don't take any of this personally :P I can find faults with any product under the sun, I'm just posting the info to try and give a better idea of what I'm looking for)

Das Keyboard (w/ inscriptions) would be cool, but way outside what I'm willing to spend :S

There's pccasegear, gamedude, any other sites good for browsing these types of things?

Also, not looking for anything of those funky ergonomic layouts, and would like to stay with something that can be used with PS2 if so desired. Oh, and a numberpad is a must :P. Preferably not wireless.

Rob.


Edited by robzy: 4/8/2008 12:11:11 AM

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TheFrunj 
4/8/08 8:09:57 AM
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Wow, not to be offensive, but you're incredibly pedantic about the keyboard huh? :P

Here's another good site to check out some keyboards:
http://www.techbuy.com.au/categories/KEYBOARD.asp

As for reviews, the simplest way to find some is to Google "<keyboard's name> Review". It'll take a few reads to find a good one, but they all should provide different perspectives on the keyboards which will actually work in your favour for something like this.

There are a few microsoft keyboards that Techbuy have, that are quite plain.

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das_book 
4/8/08 10:06:27 AM
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What keyboard are you currently using?

If your willing to spend a bit of money, and want a keyboard that feels like the older IBM ones, AND is a bit boring, take a look at the Keytronic range (i think i spelt that correctly).

http://www.keytronic.com/home/products/specs/euro_kt2001.htm

I've currently got two KT2001's, and ones not in use.
Its a LITTLE old, but if u want it, and it fits what you want, then you can have it.

I'll even be happy to provide pictures.

Why don't I use it? I prefer laptop style keys.


Edited by das_book: 4/8/2008 10:07:46 AM

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stadl 
4/8/08 9:58:27 PM
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Quote by mohawk
OEM Logitech Desktop 250 for $15 OEM Logitech Internet 350 for $22 both from MSY.



Agreed, about 2 years ago, I bought the Internet 350 for a new PC. It was such a nice simple and classic layout keyboard that I liked, and just about the only USB keyboard with the layout I like best (standard 107 keyboard arrangement and no L shaped/vertical Enter key, so the \ key is where you expect it to be and the backspace key is also a decent size.

I immediately went and bought another 2 of them so that my other PCs, including my laptop at work could all have the same nice layout and reasonable quality keyboard. All have stood up to a good hammering over that time.

Although I admit I recently changed my main home PC keyboard for a DiNovo Edge for something a little more stylish (and 2 weeks on, I'm still missing the classic layout, but persevering - because other than that, it's f***ing awesome!). Cost and bluetooth not being allowed at work will prevent me from buying any more of these though...

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robzy 
5/8/08 1:01:30 PM
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Quote by TheFrunj
Wow, not to be offensive, but you're incredibly pedantic about the keyboard huh? :P


No offense taken :P I just hope no one takes offense to my critique. I will even have complaints with the keyboard I end up choosing :P

das_book: I'm currently using a 10yo generic keyboard from office works. Those keyboards look pretty awesome, but I think I'm looking for something a bit smaller, and correct me if I'm wrong but they are also kind of large.

They are clickity-click keyboards, aren't they? If so, just to let you know, they are probably worth a little bit.

I'm thinking about just going for the Internet 350 and calling it a day. The Eclipse II is pretty awesome, but just not sure if I can justify it.

Rob.

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bu14-1 
5/8/08 2:48:58 PM
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The problem isn't that something/gunk got under the keys?

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robzy 
5/8/08 3:01:14 PM
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Quote by bu14-1
The problem isn't that something/gunk got under the keys?


Perhaps, and I know that it's not hard to pull this keyboard apart to clean it.

However, I do think that this is a good excuse for a new keyboard anyway. I've been meaning to do it for years.

Rob.

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das_book 
5/8/08 8:59:03 PM
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I know they are worth a bit, they are clickty-clack, but still use the dome-mebrain switches.

It is a little large, and in all honsty, I don't need two.

If you want it you can have it.

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robzy 
6/8/08 4:57:09 PM
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They use dome-membrain? Looked like buckling spring models.

Either way, thanks muchly for the offer. They are terribly cool, but just not what I'm after :)

I just went to check out two computer stores near RMIT in the CBD today, and bugger me of they werent asking twice as much as MSY (and CPL) for the Logitech Internet 350 :S

I was prepared to pay a little bit a premium ($22 at MSY, $30 I was prepared to pay), but I was surprised to see just so much.

On the bright side, I saw a Microsoft Business Somethingorother keyboard which MSY have for slightly more than the Logitech.

I've found that, in the past, I've rather liked Microsoft keyboards, so pending a few read reviews I think that's what I'll go for.

Decided against the more upmarket offerings from Saitek and Logitech because, well, I just don't think I can justify it. I'm sure they are nice to type on, and the backlight is cool, but made somewhat redundant by the light from dual LCDs :P

Rob.

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Master_Scythe 
9/8/08 3:37:04 AM
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search my threads for the apple aluminium keyboard raves.

go to a dick smith and try one out please.

it looks like a laptop board, but the leys move more than youd expect.

please please try one before you buy anything else.

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confined 
9/8/08 10:23:13 PM
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I've had a Logitech Elite Keyboard for about 6 years which I am perfectly happy with.

If I were going to get a new one I would just buy a Microsoft Optical Desktop 700. Costs about $25-35 for both keyboard and optical mouse.

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SceptreCore 
9/8/08 10:29:41 PM
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Rob, this is one of the finest keyboards that I have ever laid my hands on, the keys are so smooth to touch, and it has increased my typing speed.

It also has a spill resistant design, and looks stylish and all desks, winner, winner, winner.

http://www.techbuy.com.au/p/68193/KEYBOARD_KEYBOARD_MOUSE_COMBO/Microsoft/B2L-00013.asp

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Sir_Substance 
18/8/08 10:26:17 AM
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i know im probably the only one who will say this, but i LOVE my zboard.

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robzy 
18/8/08 3:37:00 PM
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Here I am typing on my Microsoft Business Hardware Pack. It's not the fanciest keyboard ever, but I know I like Microsoft keyboards and didn't want the funky shaped one.

All in all this is actually a fairly nice keyboard to type on, I am happy.

(The mouse that came with it, however, while very similar to my old Microsoft mouse feels much more cheaply made. And the scroll wheel makes way too much noise.

Rob.

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battlefield_gir 
18/8/08 9:11:55 PM
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im very picky on keyboards my self.

i like the razor lacousa mainly because its very strong pushy downy and has a rubber substrate on the keys, makes it feel nice..

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das_book 
18/8/08 9:15:19 PM
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Quote by robzy
(The mouse that came with it, however, while very similar to my old Microsoft mouse feels much more cheaply made. And the scroll wheel makes way too much noise.

Rob.



Is that the Micrsoft Basic Optical or the Microsoft Wheel Mouse Optical?

If its the later, and you don't want it... what do you want for it? :P

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robzy 
20/8/08 12:11:21 AM
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It says "Intellimouse Optical USB" on the underside. It's yours for the cheap cheap price of "If you come to Beerathon I'll be happy to give it to you there" :P

Rob.

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