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Using SMD LEDs to backlight an LCD?
Shplade 
9/9/03 7:58:44 PM
Primarch

Ok i have this lcd:
http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/3f5da29d0134079a2740c0a87f9c06bb/Product/View/Z4170
which has no backlighting.

I was thinking of backlighting it coz i can never read it in the dark. :D

Would it be possible to solder these SMD LEDs:
http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/3f5d9ff100ff07822740c0a87f9c06e9/Product/View/Z7100
into the PCB of the LCD screen?

I have looked under the actual screen and it has 4 sets of 2 holes through the PCB: 2 at each end of the screen - there was a baclight version of the LCD i have from dse a while back and the only difference was the backlight so they should work, right?

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daviej37 
9/9/03 8:06:02 PM
Overlord

Not likely sorry. If you compare non-lit and backlit versions the b/l one is a couple of mm higher to fit the led array underneath. The non-lit one also has a backing sheet on the glass(don't think it's removable) to increase the reflectivity.

The PCBs are exactly the same though, thus the allowance for backlighting on the basic model.

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Valimont 
9/9/03 8:09:00 PM
Primarch

if the leds fit and the holes actually go to the A K then sure go for it, if they don't use EL paper in stead which would work and is used on lcd's as well

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daviej37 
9/9/03 8:17:43 PM
Overlord

I beleive that most of the light is blocked by the reflective backing sheet.

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Valimont 
9/9/03 8:30:58 PM
Primarch

meh so rip it off a guide for replacing the filter here:
http://www.twistedmods.com/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=74
i believe the polerizing filter is the same/combined as the reflective backing sheet

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daviej37 
9/9/03 9:41:04 PM
Overlord

No I'm afraid you have the wrong idea of what I'm talking about.

The polarizing sheet is on the front of the glass, the reflective coating is on the back of the glass.

The backlit version does not have this coating so it can allow the light to shine through.

This is from the horses mouth, I have both displays opened in front of me.

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Goth 
10/9/03 11:39:58 AM
Champion

there's another thread on this here somewhere, i think Birdie started it

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Shplade 
10/9/03 4:21:25 PM
Primarch

thanks guys. so i should use EL paper? where can i get some how much etc?

also what do you mean by "the holes actually go to the A K" Valimont? im pretty sure they are the backlight power connections right?

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Valimont 
11/9/03 7:50:37 PM
Primarch

well you could hook them up but you would need to get rid of the shiny stuff as daviej37 said. daviej37, any ideas, turps, wet 'n' dry, i've got no idea as i don't have one,

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OwenTheGreat 
11/9/03 8:10:06 PM
Champion

it just peels off but it wont help you much.

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Valimont 
11/9/03 8:26:44 PM
Primarch

err... why wouldn't it help him, does it still block the light coming though?

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Goth 
12/9/03 5:42:10 PM
Champion

Once you take the thing apart, you may never be able to get the contacts to line up properly again, but you might. I fragged a LCD this way

http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/forums.asp?s=2&c=18&t=546

for those who are too lazy for Forums Search and expect people to explain things twice, which i'm mostly happy to do

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Shplade 
12/9/03 6:14:05 PM
Primarch

Quote by Goth
Once you take the thing apart, you may never be able to get the contacts to line up properly again, but you might. I fragged a LCD this way

http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/forums.asp?s=2&c=18&t=546

for those who are too lazy for Forums Search and expect people to explain things twice, which i'm mostly happy to do



I actually did read that post and no one mentioned EL tape (correction if im wrong). all i want to know is what is the best/easiest way to backlight the screen

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0M39A_1337 
12/9/03 7:16:51 PM
Champion

"if the leds fit and the holes actually go to the A K then sure go for it, if they don't use EL paper in stead which would work and is used on lcd's as well. "

Valimont allready mentioned it.

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Goth 
13/9/03 11:47:04 AM
Champion

I don't think those LCD modules include inverter circuitry to provide ~100V for EL material, you'll need a seperate inverter.

It won't look perfect, but no DIY backlight method will, so i'd say solder high intensity SMD LEDs either side and hope you get enough light to see by.

Or buy a cheap backlight LCD from Oatley Electronics

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OwenTheGreat 
13/9/03 12:13:52 PM
Champion

if you do remove the backing and place leds under there you still need somthing to diffuse the led light EL lighting may work, better chance then leds.

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Valimont 
14/9/03 1:17:10 PM
Primarch

ahem....
i bring you... EL foil;
http://www.cooltronix.com/shop/index.html?target=EL_Electroluminescent_Foil.html

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Valimont 
14/9/03 1:18:04 PM
Primarch

i need some for a mod

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Shplade 
14/9/03 7:00:35 PM
Primarch

Quote by Valimont
ahem....
i bring you... EL foil;
http://www.cooltronix.com/shop/index.html?target=EL_Electroluminescent_Foil.html




Ohh thanx soooooo much man i couldnt find any el tape in australia except for some sydney modding shop but i need a credit card so bah.

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Shplade 
14/9/03 7:02:00 PM
Primarch

How do you get 9v from a PC PSU? to power the El foil

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