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Open source Alternative to Exchange+Activestink?
Linux_Inside V2 
29/8/08 11:49:54 AM
Immortal

Hey Guys,

I'd like to get my iPhone integrated with my existing setup for mail with Push but it only supports Yahoo's proprietary crap and also Exchange Activesync

One option is Kerio Mailserver which will do the job, but it's a complete mail system replacement and it also costs money, what I'm looking for is some form of open source solution that will integrate well with my current Postfix+Dovecot setup. is this possible?

Cheers.

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luser 
29/8/08 12:51:13 PM
Overlord

Can you just use IMAP? If you want proper push email get a blackberry.

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Linux_Inside V2 
29/8/08 3:26:07 PM
Immortal

Quote by luser
Can you just use IMAP? If you want proper push email get a blackberry.



the iphone does not support the IMAP IDLE command
Blackberry's use blackberry servers for push, I just want activesync. you know the standard every other smartphone uses for push?

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eckythump 
29/8/08 3:39:31 PM
Champion

Hmm.

I think your best course of actio nwould be to determine exactly how the iPhone handles this when dealing with a Mac, rather than a Windows machine.

If yo ucan determine that, there's a good chance you'll be well on your way to finding an open-source option.

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Linux_Inside V2 
29/8/08 3:44:14 PM
Immortal

Quote by eckythump
Hmm.

I think your best course of actio nwould be to determine exactly how the iPhone handles this when dealing with a Mac, rather than a Windows machine.

If yo ucan determine that, there's a good chance you'll be well on your way to finding an open-source option.



Nahh

I'm talking about Push email and OTA Syncing - not the windows ActiveSync that you use when you plug in and go

It's looking like I might need to get an account on an MS Exchange server for OTA sync and Push :/

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eckythump 
29/8/08 6:29:11 PM
Champion

Fair enough.

Well, perhaps I don't understand the problem clearly, then, as I don't use any of that kind of shit on mobile phones.

But I still don't really see why my question/suggestion was invalid.

You're talking about exchange, a Windows based thing pushing to your iPhone. What would a Mac use to push mail?

And if I'm totally lost, as it appears I may be, just let me know and I'll leave it to others who like to play with such toys to try and help.

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luser 
29/8/08 8:01:13 PM
Overlord

ActiveSync is a standard now?

I know how BlackBerries work - extremely well. But obviously an iPhone is not a BlackBerry, so you have to make some trade-offs. Decent push email being one of them.

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eckythump 
29/8/08 9:45:57 PM
Champion

So, I read up a little to see what all this push email shit is all about, and it's much how I expected.

And I gotta say... what's the fucking point?

Is it not possible to have you phone periodically poll for new email? It'd be pretty disgusting if you couldn't.

But anyway, it sounds like Funambol might be your best bet.

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TheSecret 
29/8/08 10:14:46 PM
Overlord
It's a broken design, so you will only get broken functionality from it. Not a helpful comment, but as the other guys have said, it is not possible unless there is something in the iphone apps tore.

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hill60606 
30/8/08 3:57:45 AM
Immortal

Quote by TheSecret
It's a broken design, so you will only get broken functionality from it. Not a helpful comment, but as the other guys have said, it is not possible unless there is something in the iphone apps tore.



What's that, Exchange?

Windows Mobile 6 devices still have to periodically connect to the exchange server, it's not "push" like a Blackberry.

Gmail and the Google app (from app store) work well for my needs.

Something that would be handy is a Linux program that mimics how Outlook works, so that address books etc can be worked on and synced.


Edited by hill60606: 30/8/2008 04:00:10 AM

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Linux_Inside V2 
30/8/08 11:12:54 AM
Immortal

I thought Activesync push was constantly connected to the exchange server via an SSL connection to OWA or something like that,

I host my own email, hence it isn't really viable to use a mail solution like mobileme, yahoo or gmail.

Regardless, what I'm looking for is an open source Exchange Activesync solution, not a client app for my iPhone and not a piece of software to run on my computer.

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TheSecret 
31/8/08 9:30:32 PM
Overlord
This is possibly the only way

http://blog.mail2web.com/2008/07/get-free-push-email-on-your-iphone-20-today/

iphones are crap..

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Linux_Inside V2 
31/8/08 10:50:20 PM
Immortal

Quote by TheSecret
iphones are crap..



Because they don't work with blackberry servers? Gee you talk a lot of shit.

Save yourself the effort and don't bother by wasting space with your moronic ramblings next time you fucking moron, when I'm asking for help the last thing I want is a douchebag troll coming in and posting unrelated crap.


Edited by Linux_Inside V2: 31/8/2008 10:50:52 PM

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TheSecret 
31/8/08 10:55:17 PM
Overlord
iPhones are crap because of the price, the lack of 3g and mms, the lack of an ability to run your own applications..and not just..what kind of idiot would buy a 1st generation device?

Anyway, the link I actually gave was helpful, and would suit what you needed, if you bothered to look at it.

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Mac Dude 
1/9/08 7:14:10 AM
Mod
SuperHero

Immortal


will you two settle down please?

Thank you.

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Linux_Inside V2 
1/9/08 9:41:11 AM
Immortal

Quote by TheSecret
iPhones are crap because of the price, the lack of 3g and mms, the lack of an ability to run your own applications..and not just..what kind of idiot would buy a 1st generation device?


Have you been living under a rock?
http://apple.com/iphone
iPhone 3G
3G calls/data
Appstore meaning you can get free apps and also buy paid apps for the iPhone
iPhone 3G is a 2nd Generation iPhone

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SquallStrife 
1/9/08 9:43:23 AM
Titan

Quote by hill60606
Quote by TheSecret
It's a broken design, so you will only get broken functionality from it. Not a helpful comment, but as the other guys have said, it is not possible unless there is something in the iphone apps tore.



What's that, Exchange?

Windows Mobile 6 devices still have to periodically connect to the exchange server, it's not "push" like a Blackberry.



It does kinda, on the device you set the polling period to "As items arrive". Then the Exchange server triggers an ActiveSync "sync" event over RPC via HTTPS when you get an email. Just like when you use desktop Outlook remotely.

It's not push in the sense of the items being "pushed" directly to the device, but you do save on data charges from your phone constantly checking for email.


Edited by SquallStrife: 1/9/2008 9:44:24 AM

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Linux_Inside V2 
1/9/08 5:08:16 PM
Immortal

Found something that might do exactly what I want, comes with a vcard and imap backend (woot)
http://z-push.sourceforge.net/soswp/index.php?pages_id=1&t=home

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TheSecret 
1/9/08 7:13:06 PM
Overlord
Appstore means you can get apps apple says are OK.

How would you feel if redhatdecided which applications you could use on your desktop PC?

A fool and his money are soon parted.

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Linux_Inside V2 
1/9/08 7:52:49 PM
Immortal

Quote by TheSecret
Appstore means you can get apps apple says are OK.

How would you feel if redhatdecided which applications you could use on your desktop PC?

A fool and his money are soon parted.



Some of us are smart enough to Jailbreak

Apple aren't the only people who trample on toes to maintain a level of quality, regardless this thread is not about the iPhone 3G - it's about Open Source Activesync solutions. I've now found one.

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