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Best distrobution for snazziest desktop
spielentwickler 
28/8/08 11:33:58 PM
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So, I've finally got a half decent computer, and I'm going to dual boot it windows/linux.

Normally, I'd install Gentoo, but I'm possibly interested in trying out another distro.

So, in your opinion, which is it easiest to set up compiz fusion in, which am i most likely to have success with with ATI graphics, and which one looks best in the end?

This is all opinion based, so go nuts!

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TheSecret 
28/8/08 11:40:24 PM
Overlord
I'd say slackware..., but then I would not call compiz snazzy either, so who knows.

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Midnighter 
29/8/08 2:33:23 AM
Immortal

http://linuxgator.org/home/index.html ?

I run this as my main desktop, is a Gnome Remaster of PCLinuxOS, which I've always found very easy to use, and setup CF on. Have a look, can't hurt.

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CptnChrysler 
29/8/08 3:36:07 PM
Master

What about Sabayon?
Gentoo Based, though I think Redhatter may have somthing to say here...

http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/forums.asp?s=2&c=16&t=4650&p=20

Looks Pretty enough.
http://www.sabayonlinux.org/mod/screenshots/


Edited by CptnChrysler: 29/8/2008 03:44:41 PM

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spielentwickler 
29/8/08 6:14:42 PM
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I've tried Sabayon before, but it comes pre-installed with too much crap, and I end up wanting to just install gentoo instead...

PCLinuxOS doesn't look too bad.

I'm also likely to stick with kde3 at this stage. I've installed kde4.1 on my gentoo install on my laptop (which can't support all the flashyness in it) and it seems still very incomplete and even buggy in places.

I have used xfce in the past and liked it, except for some problems here and there (the terminal doesn't autodetect the backspace key setting properly for different shells). But it works with compiz fusion, so would be an option.

I want to avoid gnome. I'm sick of their policy for having required dependencies on bullshit pointless libraries (ConsoleKit anyone). I can understand supporting it if someone needs it, but why overcomplicate a single user desktop with shit like that. It's another example of the "Windows"isation of the linux OS. Too many Daemons...

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TheSecret 
29/8/08 8:49:25 PM
Overlord
What about fluxbox?

Is this not snazzy?

http://www.virb.com/sberla54/photos/976173/fullsize

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spielentwickler 
30/8/08 7:52:10 AM
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TheSecret, I consider that desktop to be about as snazzy as my grandmother's armpit :P

I'm into minimalism when it comes to my desktop, clean window decorations (with clean rectangular windows, no sticking out tabs), softened widgets (by which I refer to interactive gui elements) and best case scenario I have on screen what I need to see at that point in time.

I've played around with system info desktop widgets (by which i'm refering to superkaramba, and similar, plugins) before, and found them to be resource wasting. Battery, network, and hdd information is handy to have available at a glance, but my uname -a, cpu load and memory usage information is not a major concern to me.

If my system is going slow, I open a terminal and run htop to see what's going on. As for my kernel version, I'm guessing that's not going to change all that much while X is running :P

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TheSecret 
30/8/08 9:09:25 AM
Overlord
Then Fluxbox sounds like it would suit you perfectly.

At it's core it is just a right click context menu for applications, and a task bar. The desktop I linked is running a whole host of other programs.., not widgets as such as fluxbox does not support them.

Check out some other more simple screenshots for fluxbox, you might be suprised.

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spielentwickler 
30/8/08 10:39:48 AM
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Quote by TheSecret
Then Fluxbox sounds like it would suit you perfectly.

At it's core it is just a right click context menu for applications, and a task bar. The desktop I linked is running a whole host of other programs.., not widgets as such as fluxbox does not support them.

Check out some other more simple screenshots for fluxbox, you might be suprised.



I have used fluxbox before, but we've never really seen eye-to-eye. I may consider using it however for the next stage of this install.

I've decided to go with Gentoo, because I know it, and because I've got flexibility when building my system.

Here's the plan though. I'm going to build a desktop system first. I'll be using kde3 (which might sound counter-minimalist, but I can configure it as I need to) as the desktop environment, kdm to login, nice graphical boot using gensplah, and compiz-fusion for desktop effects.

Then, I'm going to create a user called mythtv and set up a custom X session for it. It will be using a very minimalist wm, and will be setup for mythtv. Then I'll do the Myth install.

After I've set it up so running startx from a console as mythtv results in a configured and ready to go Myth environment, I'll create a new runlevel, based on default, which will be run from a seperate grub entry. This will result in a boot to the Myth interface as mythtv with no login required, from the grub prompt.

This way, I can boot the machine as either my desktop machine, or a media center, as required.

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Redhatter 
30/8/08 12:22:17 PM
Hero
Titan


My P4 1.7GHz laptop recently had a LCD screen die on it, so I've found I'm back to using my old PII 300MHz laptop to get work done.

Toshiba Portégé 7010CT
CPU: Intel Pentium II 300MHz
RAM: 160MB PC100 SDRAM
HDD: 40GB Hitachi
OS: Gentoo 2008.0 on kernel 2.6.25 (vanilla)
Display: 800x600 pixels (!)

I have KDE installed on there, but for practical usage, I'm finding FVWM a joy. The most limiting factor here is RAM and screen real-estate, and KDE takes up waaay too much room on the screen. I'm now also compiling stuff with -Os CFLAGS instead of -O2 in a hope to try and minimise some of the bloat.

I may put some screenshots up later, but my current setup has me looking at a desktop about 5 seconds after entering my password into KDM, with the few KDE apps I do use appearing in the system tray (x11-misc/stalonetray) a few seconds later.

It's not exactly quick, but quite responsive for a 10-year old computer. :-)

Edit: Screenshot up -- http://dev.gentoo.org/~redhatter/misc/portege-fvwm-desktop.png . In the system tray you can see knetworkmanager, Kopete Messenger and KWallet Manager. Clock is provided by Xclock (of course), Calendar is xcalendar, and wmacpi provides the battery status (at the moment, no battery, because it's knackered).

Edit 2: URL fixed


Edited by Redhatter: 31/8/2008 09:51:50 AM

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wilsontc 
30/8/08 2:23:42 PM
Guru

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o147/wilsontc/desktop-1.png

That's a pretty simple Unix desktop I think :)

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spielentwickler 
30/8/08 3:54:21 PM
Guru

a practical use of background wallpaper too

i know i'm always forgetting that rule...

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GlennsPref 
30/8/08 6:35:49 PM
Champion

Mandriva 2008.1

As simple or as complicated as you set it.

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Redhatter 
31/8/08 9:50:56 AM
Hero
Titan


Quote by wilsontc
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o147/wilsontc/desktop-1.png

That's a pretty simple Unix desktop I think :)



Nice desktop... but unfortunately that desktop environment/unix distribution is only available to Apple Macintosh owners.

Which I am not ... at this stage.

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wilsontc 
31/8/08 5:23:20 PM
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Quote by Redhatter
Quote by wilsontc
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o147/wilsontc/desktop-1.png

That's a pretty simple Unix desktop I think :)



Nice desktop... but unfortunately that desktop environment/unix distribution is only available to Apple Macintosh owners.

Which I am not ... at this stage.



There are other ways.

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Redhatter 
1/9/08 7:31:05 AM
Hero
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Quote by wilsontc
Quote by Redhatter
Quote by wilsontc
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o147/wilsontc/desktop-1.png

That's a pretty simple Unix desktop I think :)



Nice desktop... but unfortunately that desktop environment/unix distribution is only available to Apple Macintosh owners.

Which I am not ... at this stage.



There are other illegal ways.



Fixed.

The "other" ways are illegal until such time as Apple license their OS for use on IBM clones. Which they haven't, and despite it possibly being a good move -- they won't do as it'll mean sacrificing their Macintosh product line.

And on my laptop, I can forget running Mac OS X.

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wilsontc 
1/9/08 9:10:38 AM
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Quote by Redhatter
Quote by wilsontc
Quote by Redhatter
Quote by wilsontc
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o147/wilsontc/desktop-1.png

That's a pretty simple Unix desktop I think :)



Nice desktop... but unfortunately that desktop environment/unix distribution is only available to Apple Macintosh owners.

Which I am not ... at this stage.



There are other illegal ways.



Fixed.

The "other" ways are illegal until such time as Apple license their OS for use on IBM clones. Which they haven't, and despite it possibly being a good move -- they won't do as it'll mean sacrificing their Macintosh product line.

And on my laptop, I can forget running Mac OS X.



I don't think your laptop belongs in a 'snazzy desktop' thread!

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Genisis X 
1/9/08 2:22:53 PM
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http://picasaweb.google.com.au/GenisisX/TWMB/photo#5175658001797036130

Ubuntu works for me.

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spielentwickler 
1/9/08 3:18:34 PM
Guru

I have to say, I'm not a fan of Ubuntu for myself.

I like to have a bit of control over my desktop, be able to make some choices for myself :)

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wilsontc 
1/9/08 3:39:33 PM
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Quote by spielentwickler
I have to say, I'm not a fan of Ubuntu for myself.

I like to have a bit of control over my desktop, be able to make some choices for myself :)



Then why not add Openbox yourself and go from there? As a Gentoo user, you're surely not afraid of messing around with configuration files.

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