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Redhatter 
23/10/06 8:39:19 PM
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Quote by techguy_2003
Quote by Redhatter
Idea... why don't we wikify this? Keeping a database like this up-to-date is a right pain-in-the-arse.

There's a list of vendors here: http://atomicdoc.yi.org/xwiki/bin/view/ULOS/Vendors



I like your idea Redhatter. Any suggestions on how to go about doing something like this? Is anyone here interested in being a part of this? Maybe we could change this thread to a link to a Wiki with similar content in it.



Well... AtomicDOC is there for exactly this purpose.

Do you think that this forum needs a sticky with this sort of distro information in it? If so, do you support creation of a Wiki to serve this purpose? If not, what alternative options would you suggest?


If you want to set up a separate wiki, that's certainly possible... but the idea behind AtomicDOC was to put all of this stuff in one place.

http://atomicdoc.yi.org/xwiki/bin/view/ULOS/Laptops <-- That used to be a separate wiki, managed by mcbridematt .

When that wiki site went down, I negotiated with mcbridematt to migrate it across to AtomicDOC v1.0 (based on PHPWiki, the existing site uses XWiki).

The same thing also happened to the Atomic Location DB: http://atomicdoc.yi.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/LocationDB

Ultimately, what should happen, is Atomic set up an official wiki site, but for the moment, AtomicDOC seems to be running reasonably well where it is now.

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techguy_2003 
24/10/06 9:57:32 AM
Primarch

Quote by Redhatter
Quote by techguy_2003
Quote by Redhatter
Idea... why don't we wikify this? Keeping a database like this up-to-date is a right pain-in-the-arse.

There's a list of vendors here: http://atomicdoc.yi.org/xwiki/bin/view/ULOS/Vendors



I like your idea Redhatter. Any suggestions on how to go about doing something like this? Is anyone here interested in being a part of this? Maybe we could change this thread to a link to a Wiki with similar content in it.



Well... AtomicDOC is there for exactly this purpose.

Do you think that this forum needs a sticky with this sort of distro information in it? If so, do you support creation of a Wiki to serve this purpose? If not, what alternative options would you suggest?


If you want to set up a separate wiki, that's certainly possible... but the idea behind AtomicDOC was to put all of this stuff in one place.

http://atomicdoc.yi.org/xwiki/bin/view/ULOS/Laptops <-- That used to be a separate wiki, managed by mcbridematt .

When that wiki site went down, I negotiated with mcbridematt to migrate it across to AtomicDOC v1.0 (based on PHPWiki, the existing site uses XWiki).

The same thing also happened to the Atomic Location DB: http://atomicdoc.yi.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/LocationDB

Ultimately, what should happen, is Atomic set up an official wiki site, but for the moment, AtomicDOC seems to be running reasonably well where it is now.


Sorry, my post wasn't very clear. What I meant to propose was to replace the content of this thread with a link to the current wiki & to move the current content of this thread into this wiki. Do you think it would be worth leaving some content in this thread such as a list of the distros in the wiki & a brief wiki description?

People could still post reviews in this thread if they like & I could update the wiki. Preferrably they could register with the wiki themselves & add their reviews there. Anyone have any feedback on this idea?

EDIT: I may be wrong, but I don't sense a lot of interest from people for this sort of content on this forum. The main idea for this guide is to help people to choose a distro that is right for them. It's also aimed at helping reduce the number of "What Distro Should I Use" threads.
I put in a lot of time creating version 2 of this distro guide. To add this content to a wiki would take a significant amount of extra time again. I'm willing to do this, but if this thread doesn't get stickied then IMO this time would be wasted. I'm still making up my mind whether or not there is enough interest to warrant doing this?


Edited by techguy_2003: 25/10/2006 09:25:21 AM

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techguy_2003 
25/10/06 10:59:04 AM
Primarch

Quote by spielentwickler
I'm currently using Kubuntu 6.06, but this afternoon sometime i'm going to be installing ubuntu 6.10. It's not 6.06, but 6.10 will be being released in november, so I'm willing to do a review on the prerelease version :D


The release date for Ubuntu & Kubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft is tommorow (US time). We should be able to download them here in Australia by late tommorow night.

I've been playing around with Kubuntu 6.10 & it is very impresive. Load times are improved & it has a much better overall look & feel.

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techguy_2003 
30/10/06 1:27:09 PM
Primarch

I have just posted my review of Kubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft.

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Redhatter 
30/10/06 3:32:54 PM
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Quote by techguy_2003
Sorry, my post wasn't very clear. What I meant to propose was to replace the content of this thread with a link to the current wiki & to move the current content of this thread into this wiki. Do you think it would be worth leaving some content in this thread such as a list of the distros in the wiki & a brief wiki description?



Well... That's how it's normally done. The thread contains a pointer to the wiki DB, discussions happen in the forum thread (XWiki has got a discussion section, but it's not as good as Atomic), but the actual content is on the wiki.

People could still post reviews in this thread if they like & I could update the wiki. Preferrably they could register with the wiki themselves & add their reviews there. Anyone have any feedback on this idea?


Well, IMHO it'd be better if they simply contribute their reviews straight up. This is how it's done in the Linux-on-Laptops DB.

EDIT: I may be wrong, but I don't sense a lot of interest from people for this sort of content on this forum. The main idea for this guide is to help people to choose a distro that is right for them. It's also aimed at helping reduce the number of "What Distro Should I Use" threads.


There is... but the issue is keeping it up-to-date. You really have to be devoted to keep up with the maintenance, if you're the only person who can update the DB. This is where sticky threads on their own, fall down. The problem with the pure-wiki solution, is that nobody knows about it. So the two compliment eachother nicely, the thread raising awareness of the wiki DB, and the wiki allowing easy ad-hoc updates.

I put in a lot of time creating version 2 of this distro guide. To add this content to a wiki would take a significant amount of extra time again. I'm willing to do this, but if this thread doesn't get stickied then IMO this time would be wasted. I'm still making up my mind whether or not there is enough interest to warrant doing this?


It would appear that there is. While I've used many different distributions... I haven't used some of them in many years. So my knowledge of them is a little scratchy. Others are in a similar situation, moved from distro to distro, only to settle on one particular vendor. Some of us have tried more obscure distributions.

So this whole community-driven knowledgebase, IMHO, would be really worthwhile. It's just a matter of getting it into a form which is both easily maintained, and easily navicable for most people. Whether it be a wiki, or a clone of the distro chooser site mentioned earlier, it doesn't really matter, so long as everyone is able to be updated and searched in an efficient manner.

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Leonid 
30/10/06 3:41:15 PM
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I'll update Red Hat and SuSE/Novell doco if you want.

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techguy_2003 
31/10/06 5:28:58 PM
Primarch

Quote by Redhatter
Quote by techguy_2003
Sorry, my post wasn't very clear. What I meant to propose was to replace the content of this thread with a link to the current wiki & to move the current content of this thread into this wiki. Do you think it would be worth leaving some content in this thread such as a list of the distros in the wiki & a brief wiki description?



Well... That's how it's normally done. The thread contains a pointer to the wiki DB, discussions happen in the forum thread (XWiki has got a discussion section, but it's not as good as Atomic), but the actual content is on the wiki.

People could still post reviews in this thread if they like & I could update the wiki. Preferrably they could register with the wiki themselves & add their reviews there. Anyone have any feedback on this idea?


Well, IMHO it'd be better if they simply contribute their reviews straight up. This is how it's done in the Linux-on-Laptops DB.

EDIT: I may be wrong, but I don't sense a lot of interest from people for this sort of content on this forum. The main idea for this guide is to help people to choose a distro that is right for them. It's also aimed at helping reduce the number of "What Distro Should I Use" threads.


There is... but the issue is keeping it up-to-date. You really have to be devoted to keep up with the maintenance, if you're the only person who can update the DB. This is where sticky threads on their own, fall down. The problem with the pure-wiki solution, is that nobody knows about it. So the two compliment eachother nicely, the thread raising awareness of the wiki DB, and the wiki allowing easy ad-hoc updates.

I put in a lot of time creating version 2 of this distro guide. To add this content to a wiki would take a significant amount of extra time again. I'm willing to do this, but if this thread doesn't get stickied then IMO this time would be wasted. I'm still making up my mind whether or not there is enough interest to warrant doing this?


It would appear that there is. While I've used many different distributions... I haven't used some of them in many years. So my knowledge of them is a little scratchy. Others are in a similar situation, moved from distro to distro, only to settle on one particular vendor. Some of us have tried more obscure distributions.

So this whole community-driven knowledgebase, IMHO, would be really worthwhile. It's just a matter of getting it into a form which is both easily maintained, and easily navicable for most people. Whether it be a wiki, or a clone of the distro chooser site mentioned earlier, it doesn't really matter, so long as everyone is able to be updated and searched in an efficient manner.


Thanks for the input Redhatter. You've convinced me not to lose hope on this idea. :D

I've decided to start migrating the content of this thread to the AtomiDOC wiki -> http://atomicdoc.yi.org/xwiki/bin/view/ULOS/Vendors

If anyone wants to contribute a review please register on this wiki & post it there instead of in this thread.

Quote by Leonid
I'll update Red Hat and SuSE/Novell doco if you want.


Thanks Leonid. Can you please register on the wiki & post it directly there. That would would help a lot.


Edited by techguy_2003: 31/10/2006 05:34:15 PM

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techguy_2003 
3/11/06 10:22:53 PM
Primarch

This guide now points to the Linux distro section of the AtomicDOC wiki. I will be updating this with more distros over time. This is a work in progress...

Please post your reviews in this wiki rather than in this thread.

Mods - can this be stickied?

EDIT: Thanks for the sticky mods. :D

I've added Fedora, Knoppix & Xandros to the wiki.


Edited by techguy_2003: 5/11/2006 6:33:14 PM

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hill60606 
14/11/06 10:32:14 PM
Guru

I've just installed Mandriva Free 2007, I also tried Mandriva Live for a while.

There are a few quirks i.e the Live version had a 3D desktop which worked fine, yet the free version says my system doesn't support it?

This could be because I installed an AMD 64bit version?

I have Gnome (main) and KDE both installed and can log out to switch.

Package support is not too good, rpm's and applications from other sources don't seem to work too well eg Firefox 1.5 is included (I am having trouble installing FF2).

All the usual applications (web, office, multimedia etc) are pretty well covered .

Hardware detection was good and all my drives are mounted and (fairly) easy to find (in gnome not kde).

I don't have much experience with using cli having switched from Xandros, I prefer to use Linux from a point and click perspective.

I checked the link to the wiki to post this and was asked for a username and password.

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techguy_2003 
16/11/06 5:56:16 PM
Primarch

Quote by hill60606
I've just installed Mandriva Free 2007, I also tried Mandriva Live for a while.

There are a few quirks i.e the Live version had a 3D desktop which worked fine, yet the free version says my system doesn't support it?

This could be because I installed an AMD 64bit version?

I have Gnome (main) and KDE both installed and can log out to switch.

Package support is not too good, rpm's and applications from other sources don't seem to work too well eg Firefox 1.5 is included (I am having trouble installing FF2).

All the usual applications (web, office, multimedia etc) are pretty well covered .

Hardware detection was good and all my drives are mounted and (fairly) easy to find (in gnome not kde).

I don't have much experience with using cli having switched from Xandros, I prefer to use Linux from a point and click perspective.

I checked the link to the wiki to post this and was asked for a username and password.


Thanks for the review hill60606.

It was informative & is exactly the type of review we are looking for.

You need to register in order to edit the Wiki.

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hill60606 
18/11/06 9:00:40 AM
Guru

Done, on that site it's fairly difficult to find the registration page.

It's that little picture next to "Welcome".

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"I don't recall guaranteeing that there would never be an interest rate movement. I mean, nobody can do that. I can't do that now." Howard

Redhatter 
18/11/06 11:28:08 AM
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Quote by hill60606
Done, on that site it's fairly difficult to find the registration page.

It's that little picture next to "Welcome".



Actually, it isn't. That's the "Edit Menu" button.
The link you want lurks up the top-right hand corner.

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techguy_2003 
15/1/07 1:33:05 PM
Primarch

I've been too busy over the past month or so to update this guide. Hoping to find some time over the next couple of weeks to add some more distros.

Has anyone here tried a distro over the past couple of months?

We need some more reviews to bring this Wiki up-to-date.

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AnthraxPants 
31/3/07 9:32:32 PM
Overlord

Finally planning Open Source installs tonight and tomorrow. I'm doing a multi boot install, I have a few new distros to try, but I also have to download some I can't get from WAIX after my ADSL cap turns over at midnight (WA time). I first must reinstall the Windows beast before I can add Open Source distros to it and then I can try installs on some of the older PCs.

"I'm excited!" ;)


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hill60606 
19/9/07 7:30:49 PM
Titan

I am now using PCLinuxOS this is the best I have tried so far.

For the first time I spend more time in Linux than I do in Windows.

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white rabbit 
14/10/07 10:40:53 PM
Charge
I can't be arsed writing a review, so I'll just give you a short on which distro's I like.
My policy is I use a distrobution till I break it... Distrobutions I fail to break I am prepared to use. These include:

Debian
Gentoo
FreeBSD
OpenBSD

Distrobutions I have broken:

Redhat
Mandrake (I haven't used it since it became Mandrivia)
Ubuntu
CentOS
Fedora (back when it first came out mind you)

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0shift 
1/1/08 10:34:08 AM
Master

Thanks for the guide, I found it a great help for getting into the world of linux.

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melkor 
20/1/08 1:16:22 PM
Initiate
Link is dead...

Dave

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dsagill 
13/4/08 12:36:54 PM
Titan

I loves Atomic - I'm finally going to set up a Linux server with PHP/MySQL and I got a big leg up from the goodies attached to that linky.

Thank you all involved - you rock!

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weslem27 
15/6/08 11:34:31 AM
Learner

Note to all. I have just set up a webserver (PHP/MySQL, etc) using SME Server, a revamped CentOS. Speaking from a n00bs p.o.v. it is great :) Easy to use GUI and easy to setup. +1 to SME.

I'll post a proper review for you if you wish. Let me know.


Edited by weslem27: 15/6/2008 11:35:20 AM

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