pekkahead
18/10/06 09:59:58 AM
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It's very funny all the same, and in a round about fashion, it's very symbolic...
http://www.smilesr4u.com/Bears/cid_14dd01c5ff666191cf600100a8c0home1.jpg
gotta laugh..don't you?
cheers -----
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techguy_2003
18/10/06 10:34:24 AM
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Quote by pekkahead
It's very funny all the same, and in a round about fashion, it's very symbolic...
http://www.smilesr4u.com/Bears/cid_14dd01c5ff666191cf600100a8c0home1.jpg
gotta laugh..don't you?
cheers
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Redhatter
18/10/06 10:37:42 AM
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The polar bear is Microsoft. :-)
Update: Blogged -- http://stuartl.longlandclan.hopto.org/blog/2006/10/18/wakey-wakey/
Edited by Redhatter: 18/10/2006 10:47:39 AM -----
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pekkahead
18/10/06 11:03:02 AM
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I looked at it as being the waking up of the masses of sleeping computer users <large bear>, with respect to what's also available as an OS for them to use <penguin=linux>.
I just love the image all the same, an extremely funny image, excellently done :-)
ps,
ty red :)
Edited by pekkahead: 18/10/2006 11:05:01 AM -----
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NearZero
18/10/06 05:21:50 PM
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lol Redhatter, are those debug symbols :P -----
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Leonid
18/10/06 10:32:32 PM
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I get the funny, but seriously, waking up the sleeping bear representing Microsoft?
There are plenty of Microsoft users out there who know about Linux but are simply not interested. Linux has got to get over te mentality of beating windows.
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Redhatter
18/10/06 10:57:11 PM
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Yeah... my remark was more based around the fact that Microsoft is comming out with "new" ideas, that have existed in the Unix (and Linux) world for decades.
o virtual desktops -- Windows Vista will be the first to include this. FVWM and MWM had this feature, as did many other window managers.
o desktop widgets -- "New" feature of Vista. You could do some of these things using ActiveDesktop that came with IE4 and above, but they were nowhere near as flexible. KDE 3.5 has this functionality out-of-the-box thanks to Superkarumba.
o IPv6 -- Windows XP was the first edition to come with (prerelease) IPv6 support. An addon to Windows 2000 was also published. FreeBSD has had IPv6 support for over 10 years now. Linux first got IPv6 support in release 2.1.8, circa 1996.
o mandatory access control -- SELinux and RSBac provide this in Linux. There is no Microsoft equivalent AFAIK. Microsoft states this is a feature of class-B security systems, whereas Windows NT is class C2.
I'm not going to carry on here. My point is, Microsoft's been blissfully unaware of what its competitors are up to, and is unaware that in many areas, they are being beaten. Sure, you may not use any of the above features ... but it still doesn't change the fact that these are plenty of areas where Microsoft is lagging. ;-) -----
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Leonid
18/10/06 11:27:55 PM
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Quote by Redhatter
Yeah... my remark was more based around the fact that Microsoft is comming out with "new" ideas, that have existed in the Unix (and Linux) world for decades.
o virtual desktops -- Windows Vista will be the first to include this. FVWM and MWM had this feature, as did many other window managers.
o desktop widgets -- "New" feature of Vista. You could do some of these things using ActiveDesktop that came with IE4 and above, but they were nowhere near as flexible. KDE 3.5 has this functionality out-of-the-box thanks to Superkarumba.
o IPv6 -- Windows XP was the first edition to come with (prerelease) IPv6 support. An addon to Windows 2000 was also published. FreeBSD has had IPv6 support for over 10 years now. Linux first got IPv6 support in release 2.1.8, circa 1996.
o mandatory access control -- SELinux and RSBac provide this in Linux. There is no Microsoft equivalent AFAIK. Microsoft states this is a feature of class-B security systems, whereas Windows NT is class C2.
I'm not going to carry on here. My point is, Microsoft's been blissfully unaware of what its competitors are up to, and is unaware that in many areas, they are being beaten. Sure, you may not use any of the above features ... but it still doesn't change the fact that these are plenty of areas where Microsoft is lagging. ;-)
And plenty where Unix is as well
- Domain level file authentication (Longhorn server) which sets attributes on files which renders them unuseable out of the domain, unburnable to optical media and the like
- Multimaster mode LDAP controllers
- Ability to rescan added LUNs from storage arrays on the fly without a restart (Yes this can sometimes works on Linux with specific card manufacturer scripts)
- Exchange - lets face it, it's one of the better groupware systems out there
- Copy-paste works reliably as does dragging files into applications
- Average user ease of use. Come on, hands up who here likes configuring VPNs on Linux
- Security policy settings in a Domain environment. -----
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lew~
19/10/06 01:39:54 AM
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Quote by Leonid
- Domain level file authentication (Longhorn server) which sets attributes on files which renders them unuseable out of the domain, unburnable to optical media and the like
Out of curiosity. What would happen if you chucked in a linux live cd/booted into a linux install and tried to access the files? -----
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Leonid
19/10/06 01:32:38 PM
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Quote by lew~
Quote by Leonid
- Domain level file authentication (Longhorn server) which sets attributes on files which renders them unuseable out of the domain, unburnable to optical media and the like
Out of curiosity. What would happen if you chucked in a linux live cd/booted into a linux install and tried to access the files?
No idea - I have beta 2 at work - I'll give it a spin. I doubt they encode the actual file - just the OS metadata regarding that file. -----
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Sap:
- Jesus was actually part of a Mossad conspiracy.
- Kosher is the Hebrew word for: take control of their economy and send them to war with each other.
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lew~
19/10/06 02:59:09 PM
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Quote by Leonid
Quote by lew~
Quote by Leonid
- Domain level file authentication (Longhorn server) which sets attributes on files which renders them unuseable out of the domain, unburnable to optical media and the like
Out of curiosity. What would happen if you chucked in a linux live cd/booted into a linux install and tried to access the files?
No idea - I have beta 2 at work - I'll give it a spin. I doubt they encode the actual file - just the OS metadata regarding that file.
It just reminded me of the U3 software on my USB drive. In case you're not familiar, the software allows the user to 'secure' their USB drive with a password - rendering the data inaccessible until the password is entered. However the data isn't encrypted so it is completely accessible through any Linux machine. I subsequently removed the software as it's virtually useless.
Domain level file authentication sounds kinda similar...
That would be really cool if you could test it, but it's not important :)
Cheers
Edited by lew~: 19/10/2006 2:59:32 PM -----
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