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Who knows Action Script or HTML????
LevonArmenian 
18/8/08 4:07:40 AM
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I want to make a group of guys who know HTML or Action Script!!!

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Slace 
18/8/08 8:41:39 AM
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I'm a 1337 hacker and I have mad skills with HTML!

ROAH! PHEER MY SKILLS!

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superfireydave 
18/8/08 10:00:01 AM
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I know both.
But why would you want to make a group? -_-

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Redhatter 
18/8/08 10:19:48 AM
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ActionScript AFAIK is simply Adobe (Macromedia's) brand of ECMAScript, a close derivative of Netscape's JavaScript language.

As for HTML... well... that's not programming any more than plaintext or OpenOffice documents. HTML is merely a presentation format. You can't programme it. It has no concepts of looping, subroutines, conditionals, variables or other elements that constitute a programming language.

Come back when you've learned a real programming language... such as one of these:
o ASP (which uses VBScript or JScript)
o ASP.net (which uses VB.net or C#)
o C
o C++
o JSP (using Java)
o Perl
o PHP
o Python
o Ruby
o ... etc

(Forgot about JSP ;-)


Edited by Redhatter: 18/8/2008 10:20:49 AM

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LevonArmenian 
18/8/08 5:05:20 PM
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Yes I know that HTML isn't programming and that's why I'm learning now PHP !!!

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Deserted 
18/8/08 5:21:34 PM
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Quote by LevonArmenian
Yes I know that HTML isn't programming and that's why I'm learning now PHP !!!



while your at it can you learn everything you type doesn't necessarily require maximum impact (note "." ne "!!!")

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LevonArmenian 
18/8/08 11:34:55 PM
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Which is the best Web programming whith whom i can work in C++ too??

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Amiga4eva 
19/8/08 6:35:48 AM
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Replace(String,"!","?")

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Girvo 
19/8/08 3:35:49 PM
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Quote by LevonArmenian
Which is the best Web programming whith whom i can work in C++ too??





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spielentwickler 
25/8/08 4:08:32 AM
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Quote by LevonArmenian
Which is the best Web programming whith whom i can work in C++ too??



Simply, C++ has no place being used for most web development. Of course, you can do it, but there's much better solutions out there available.

If you would like to use a C++ type language for web development, can I recommend C# or Java. Both have similar sintax and similar capablities as C++, but are much better suited towards web application development.

Of course, if you're looking at client side programming, you're pretty much stuck with javascript/ecmascript (which for all intents and purposes are pretty much the same thing). Make sure you learn about the DOM, and look at libraries like jquery.

No offense, but each time you post it's like you've looked up a bunch of names of programming or similar technologies and just tried to put them into a sentence. What exactly are you trying to achieve by posting? What type of group are you trying to make. If it's web development, there's many communities in existance. Check out the web design forum here on Atomic. Or post here in Programming if it's a server side topic.

There's also large developer communities based around individual technologies. The "in" one at the moment being the ruby on rails community.

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nicephotog-jvm.net 
27/8/08 8:59:37 AM
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"...looping..." try an "ordered list" "OL" numeric.
Also , try Xforms and HTML5.
But as it is its basically deaf to reason.

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spielentwickler 
28/8/08 1:37:34 PM
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Quote by nicephotog-jvm.net
"...looping..." try an "ordered list" "OL" numeric.
Also , try Xforms and HTML5.
But as it is its basically deaf to reason.



an ordered list is not a loop

it's not iteration at all

It's an arbitrary enumeration of supplied data.

As a programming language, HTML only has a single state. It is not Turing complete. You can not calculate values of pi with it. As a programming languages, it's pretty fucking useless.

As a mark-up language however (you know, as in HyperText Mark-up Language), used correctly it's pretty good. You can mark-up text as a heading, to different levels. You can use divisions to relate particular pieces of data. You can mark a list of related items as a list, and even have the items themselves numbered by the user agent displaying your document.

Nice to see you had a look at the home page to the w3c. XForms is just an extension to the XHTML (and possibly in other XML) language to replace the old HTML forms.

HTML5 is the next generation of the HTML standard. It doesn't even use XForms. From the w3c:

http://www.w3.org/html/wg/html5/#relationship2 1.4.4 Relationship to Web Forms 2.0 and XForms

This section is non-normative.

This specification will eventually supplant Web Forms 2.0. The current Web Forms 2.0 draft can be considered part of this specification for the time being; its features will eventually be merged into this specification.

As it stands today, this specification is unrelated and orthognoal[sic] to XForms. When the forms features defined in HTML4 and Web Forms 2.0 are merged into this specification, then the relationship to XForms described in the Web Forms 2.0 draft will apply to this specification.



And according to this document http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-forms/current-work/#r-to-html5 , XForms will be used below the web forms 2.0 interface.

Neither the changes in HTML5, XForms or web forms 2.0 qualify HTML (or XHTML) as programming languages.

The two languages (HTML/XHTML) provide an interface to interact with parts of the document, known as the DOM, which in most browsers is implemented in Javascript (or ECMAScript) which IS a programming language.


Edited by spielentwickler: 28/8/2008 01:39:28 PM

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nicephotog-jvm.net 
29/8/08 8:19:06 PM
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re: spielentwickler...

HTML5 as it implies is not XHTML.
As for "OL" , that has an attribute that will write a number
either arabic or roman into the output one after the other for the list. [note: i had no intention of anyone believing HTML could do
the work of a programming language. The closest there is, is XSL.]

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spielentwickler 
30/8/08 8:22:19 AM
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Quote by nicephotog-jvm.net
re: spielentwickler...

HTML5 as it implies is not XHTML.
As for "OL" , that has an attribute that will write a number
either arabic or roman into the output one after the other for the list. [note: i had no intention of anyone believing HTML could do
the work of a programming language. The closest there is, is XSL.]



I never said HTML5 was XHTML.

And the attribute does not do that. It is up to the user-agent to correctly interpret and render the content of the tag according to the attribute.

Also, that attribute is deprecated in the current HTML standard, as the proper way to have the correct rendering is to use style-sheets or rely on the browser to render it most appropriately.

OL simply marks a list of items that have to be enumerated.

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