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Deleting posts for no good reason
aioth 
24/8/08 8:43:20 PM
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All I said was "And this deserves a one year bump why?"



Why would expect this to me retained?

Seriously. That would be a shithouse post.

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Mac Dude 
24/8/08 8:47:11 PM
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Quote by TheSecret
Since the mods can never protect us from all the individual posts that are considered a personal attack, why only focus on some? To remove an individual post which is not a personal attack, but lets say...petty bickering, which still contained technical arguments, is simply an abuse of power, and censorship, because the mods thought the users could not resolve something themselves or handle a debate in a thread.

Seriously, would not warnings simply work, instead of feeling it necessary to shape history to how you want it perceived?



So we shouldn't have moderators because they cannot protect people from every individual post? I guess that means we shouldn't have police because they can't protect people from every criminal.

It's a silly proposition IMO.

You are just pissed because I deleted posts of your where you were bickering with one other member in a thread.

You say that the deletion of your bickering is an abuse of power, I say you were showing a lack of respect for the people trying to have a discussion. Their point of view, their enjoyment of the forums wasn't as important as your calling names of another Atomican.

That's fine, we will have to agree to disagree. But, if the mods see people showing a lack of respect for others in a similar way, people shouldn't be surprised if the same action is taken.

That's the way it is.

If you have a problem with it I suggest you PM David with how moderating powers are being abused.




Edited by Mac Dude: 24/8/2008 8:47:46 PM

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TheSecret 
24/8/08 8:55:08 PM
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Hulkster,

I am not trying to make the mods look bad, but I take offense to having posts deleted when there was no spam or insults.

Mac Dude,

Using your police metaphor, police won't seemingly randomly select criminals, they will either go for the biggest threat, or try and get everybody.

Of course I am pissed you deleted my posts, which were not insults or spam. A lack of respect for people trying to have a discussion? I was one of the main parts of the discussion! Censorship at it's finest.

There would be little point in PMing david, obviously you're on good terms, or you wouldn't feel so comfortable deleting posts without reason, and then suggesting I take it up with him.

It's good that you have a policy to protect people when discussions don't go the way you like, but you can why some people might think over policing is going on.

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Mac Dude 
24/8/08 9:45:01 PM
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Quote by TheSecret
Hulkster,

I am not trying to make the mods look bad, but I take offense to having posts deleted when there was no spam or insults.

Mac Dude,

Using your police metaphor, police won't seemingly randomly select criminals, they will either go for the biggest threat, or try and get everybody.


The thread in question was RTM'ed because you and another were taking it off topic with your bickering. Think of it as a 000 call. People were pissed off and RTM'ed it, and the RTM was acted on. Moderators will look at each and every RTM and decide if the rules have been broken and what action to take.


Of course I am pissed you deleted my posts, which were not insults or spam. A lack of respect for people trying to have a discussion? I was one of the main parts of the discussion! Censorship at it's finest.


So initially you didn't disagree that your posts contained bickering(in fact you admitted in an RTM that your posts "were not just petty bickering "), now you say they didn't contain any insults.

Looks like your story has changed and does beg the question, why was the thread RTM'ed at all?

I strongly recommend that you PM David then, because the RTM must have been imaginary along with the insults. As I'm sure you're aware that nothing is really deleted. If your claim that a moderator is deleting your posts for no reason I'm sure David would like to know about it as it impacts on the site to have a rogue moderator. And the posts would back up your story, if it were true.


There would be little point in PMing david, obviously you're on good terms, or you wouldn't feel so comfortable deleting posts without reason, and then suggesting I take it up with him.


lol, yes, the conspiracy is true. It's sounding more far fetched as you go :)

The reason I'm comfortable with people PMing David, or Ben before him, is because it's the right thing to do. If anyone has a problem with a moderator they should contact another moderator or David as their next course of action. This has always been my recommendation and always will be in these circumstances


It's good that you have a policy to protect people when discussions don't go the way you like, but you can why some people might think over policing is going on.



If you don't want your posts removed or your threads locked, stay inside the rules, it's that simple.

There is no new information here, I have made the reasons for my actions clear. Disturbingly you have decided to bring into question David's credibility in the above post, saying that he would be comfortable with me virtually doing whatever I liked from a moderating perspective.

I personally think it's pretty pathetic low blow, it shows absolutely no understanding of the people involved, and I'll leave others to make up their minds on such a claim.

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TheSecret 
24/8/08 10:03:34 PM
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The problem that I had was that I was staying within the rules, I did not make any personal insults, and yet you felt it was fine to delete my individual posts.

It's easy to say people can make up their own minds, when the evidence is conveniently removed.

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TheFrunj 
24/8/08 10:23:27 PM
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Quote by TheSecret
The problem that I had was that I was staying within the rules, I did not make any personal insults, and yet you felt it was fine to delete my individual posts.


No, the problem was that you thought you were staying within the rules.

Others took offence to the discretion, and RTM'd it, whereupon it was acted on. Just like any other post would be, especially if it was not on topic.

I personally think that the mods do a bloody good job, and while they could run the place like a totalitarian nazi regime, they don't because they actually like it here.

And if you don't like it, might I remind you, no-one is forcing you to stay.

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TheSecret 
24/8/08 11:02:47 PM
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What rule was I breaking?

I did not personally insult anyone, but attacked their arguments, and even then not in a personal way.

Even if it was RTM'd, and somehow one of my posts was outside of these rules, surely I could have been given a warning and a chance to edit my post, to preserve the technical aspects?

It seems more likely that the other party was straying from the rules, and it was easier to delete all involved posts, rather than take the time to post a warning.

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Virtuoso 
25/8/08 2:34:55 AM
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There are more important things to worry about than this.

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Gharphield 
25/8/08 12:56:54 PM
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TheSecret: I'm willing to bet there is no answer we can give you that will make you feel at ease, there seems to be no way to sway your emotions on this topic.

If that's the case, we get it, you hate it. I and the other Mods agree with the action taken, it's as simple as that. Perhaps its time to move on and get over it.

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MrFriendly 
25/8/08 2:00:12 PM
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Quote by Gharphield
TheSecret: I'm willing to bet there is no answer we can give you that will make you feel at ease, there seems to be no way to sway your emotions on this topic.

If that's the case, we get it, you hate it. I and the other Mods agree with the action taken, it's as simple as that. Perhaps its time to move on and get over it.



Or just find another forum more to his liking.

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Gharphield 
25/8/08 2:43:02 PM
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Well not really, TheSecret has much to offer Atomic, as do the vast vast majority of users here. I'm just saying that it's probably best that he gets over it because I don't see any answer that we give will satisfy him.

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Lex Talionis

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plebsmacker 
25/8/08 3:21:09 PM
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I thought TheSecret was a chick.

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Gharphield 
25/8/08 5:11:22 PM
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Sorry didn't know, doesn't really matter either way :)

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Lex Talionis

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Takoma 
25/8/08 7:10:08 PM
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Quote by plebsmacker
I thought TheSecret was a chick.


That's Secret85 :)

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Nich... 
1/9/08 1:08:59 AM
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I find it offensive that people can be dismissive of questions of authority, just because the person wasn't around when they've been done in the past but the poster in question was, and doesn't want to deal with it again.

I find it offensive that when someone asks what rule they broke, to clarify things, they're brushed off with a "well obviously you'll never be happy with any answer we give you, so just go away and be quiet like a good little forum account".

I won't RTM it, tho', because I'm not sure if being offended is justification enough, or if characterising the last page or so as a big bit of bickering between a user and some mods is also enough to make it worthwhile.

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Nich... 
1/9/08 1:09:14 AM
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Why would that cause a storm, Nich?


People were outraged and upset that Ben could go around editing peoples' posts.

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Meeko 
1/9/08 7:01:28 AM
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Wow, people are really that touchy?

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iamthemaxx 
1/9/08 9:07:14 AM
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Quote by Nich...
Quote by Meeko
Why would that cause a storm, Nich?


People were outraged and upset that Ben could go around editing peoples' posts.



He couldn't.
We can't.

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Nich... 
1/9/08 5:01:14 PM
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Quote by iamthemaxx
Quote by Nich...
Quote by Meeko
Why would that cause a storm, Nich?


People were outraged and upset that Ben could go around editing peoples' posts.



He couldn't.
We can't.


I never said he nor any of you could actually do it.


Edited by Nich...: 1/9/2008 5:02:11 PM

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Pomky 
1/9/08 10:09:59 PM
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Quote by spyder
Quote by seehund
But srsly...it's not just me who thinks things are being over policed these days. The forums are becoming a little stale and formulaic. Maybe it's just the way things go with forums over time as this is the longest I've ever been on one but the place seems a little spiritless and listless these days...almost like it's just going through the motions and recycling the same old sanitised crap again and again.

My 2 cents.


Edited by seehund: 19/8/2008 9:42:57 AM


Over policed? These forums are probably one of the most liberal, open and free forums going around.

Geeze, if these forums are over policed, I'd hate to see a forum that was "under-policed"...




www.forum.bodybuilding.com springs to my mind love the place but the mods are useless trolls.

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