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Midnighter 
3/8/08 5:06:29 PM
Immortal

Login today to find a message a thread of mine was deleted. Supposedly for "swearing" in the title. Bullshit. Went to look at what he was on about. Only one missing was my one about toilet paper. And clearly the "offendi9ng word" must have been "shit". You have to be kidding me. Only the most anal-retentive of peoples would look for that as an excuse. People discuss things "giving them the shits" all the time, and it's not considered swearing, so why should this be any different? I'm always careful not to swear in titles, but apparently someone got it into their head that saying "enough to give you the shits" is considered swearing. Which has to be the lamest excuse I've heard yet. It's just being childish is all it is. What next? We can't say "damn" in a thread title? What a joke.

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The Fuzz damn you! 
3/8/08 5:18:39 PM
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Yes, your thread got removed. It had the word "shit" in the title. Pretty bloody clear-cut imo, but you are of course free to disagree and decry this as one of the great injustices of our time.

Or you could maybe spend your time re-posting your incredibly important toilet paper thread sans title-swearing, your choice.

*shrug*

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TheFrunj 
3/8/08 5:25:10 PM
Titan

Toilet paper is very important....

And who cares, not like it particularly needs swearing to get the point across in the title.

Most moderators will give you the text from the thread, so it's little effort to repost it.

*shrugs*

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Midnighter 
3/8/08 5:36:14 PM
Immortal

Never said it was a great injustice. Said it was ridiculous you';re getting your knickers in a twist because I had "shits" in a title. Just how is that swearing?

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back2future 
3/8/08 5:53:15 PM
Disciple
Quote by Midnighter
Never said it was a great injustice. Said it was ridiculous you';re getting your knickers in a twist because I had "shits" in a title. Just how is that swearing?


How it is not swearing?

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1shot1kill 
3/8/08 5:53:34 PM
SuperHero
Colossus


Shit is a swearword, what's the big deal? There's been a rule against swearing in thread titles for a bloody long time now, it's not like it's something that the mods have just sprung on you in the last couple of days.

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80proof 
3/8/08 6:03:15 PM
Guru

Quote by back2future
Quote by Midnighter
Never said it was a great injustice. Said it was ridiculous you';re getting your knickers in a twist because I had "shits" in a title. Just how is that swearing?


How it is not swearing?



+1

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elvenwhore 
3/8/08 6:10:31 PM
SuperHero
Titan


Quote by Midnighter
Never said it was a great injustice. Said it was ridiculous you';re getting your knickers in a twist because I had "shits" in a title. Just how is that swearing?


The 'no swearing in thread titles' thing came about in response to popular public opinion. What constitutes swearing, though, is a - fuck I hate when a song with lots of words comes on when I'm trying to think and type - what constitutes swearing, though, is admittedly a bit of a furry line. Like, green and furry, like a tree frog if it evolved to live in the Himalayan mountain region.

It's been an issue for a long time, one that pops up every now and then. In one of the past discussions, Ben spelled it out probably the best way I can remember it being said:

Quote by Ben Mansill
Sorry - I did consider spelling it out, but assumed that everyone would understand what actually constitutes a swear word, and what doesn't.

Cunt fuck shit are swear words, wtf, ffs, etc are not.


(Source: http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/forums.asp?s=1&c=4&t=3199 )

I do understand that Atomic is under David H's wing now, and not Ben's, but that's one of the first threads that I found in a forum search :-)

Fundamentally, it's always going to be one of those things that varies according to perception. Midnighter, you clearly don't consider shit to be swearing, and that's cool. I don't consider bollocks to be swearing but I might get a couple of odd looks if I took the alter in a church on Sunday morning and blurted it out :-) Others here might consider shit to be swearing, which I guess is where the interpretation in the application of the rules thing comes in.

At the end of the day, I guess what you see as being small potatoes is a big enough problem for others for the moderation hammer to swing into action. I saw your thread, and must confess I was suprised it seemed to be surviving in spite of the 'no swearing' rule (time delay between posting and action, as it turns out). I would put the word shit on my list of swear words, if only because it's a word I wouldn't say to my grandparents if they were still alive.

How do you define swearing? :-)

edit: oh by the way, I've used italics for certain words because I didn't feel like littering my post with " "'s, just for tonight. I'm not trying to emphasise certain words, only to set them apart :-)


Edited by elvenwhore: 3/8/2008 6:12:04 PM

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Fat_Bodybuilder 
3/8/08 9:40:00 PM
Titan

There have been previous threads with shit in the title, after the rule, though.

http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/forumsearch.asp?keywords=shit&location=title&username=&po

Oh, and what was the whole thread title, btw? :-)


Edited by Fat_Bodybuilder: 3/8/2008 9:41:02 PM

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morris 
3/8/08 9:41:43 PM
SuperHero
Immortal


Quote by Fat_Bodybuilder
There have been previous threads with shit in the title, after the rule, though.

If that's the case, then help out the mods and report those threads.

Unfortunately they can't be everywhere all the time. They do miss things.

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1shot1kill 
3/8/08 9:47:09 PM
SuperHero
Colossus


Quote by Fat_Bodybuilder
There have been previous threads with shit in the title, after the rule, though.



I can't see all the threads as they're posted, so help me out.

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Fat_Bodybuilder 
3/8/08 9:51:13 PM
Titan

Check my edit.

Also, I believe this thread should have had the title: "You gotta be shittin' me!"


:P


Edited by Fat_Bodybuilder: 3/8/2008 9:52:27 PM

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1shot1kill 
3/8/08 9:55:33 PM
SuperHero
Colossus


Quote by Fat_Bodybuilder
Check my edit.



What's different?

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Harden up, BITCHES!!

Quis custodiet custodes ipsos?

It's still rocket surgery. I just make it look easy, is all.

Fat_Bodybuilder 
3/8/08 9:59:49 PM
Titan

Nothing dude.

Carry on with whatever.

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Meeko 
4/8/08 2:38:25 AM
Titan

Do mods have the ability to edit titles? This way we can avoid losing a reasonable thread and everything in it because of title alone.

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1shot1kill 
4/8/08 7:14:55 AM
SuperHero
Colossus


Quote by Meeko
Do mods have the ability to edit titles?



No.

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Harden up, BITCHES!!

Quis custodiet custodes ipsos?

It's still rocket surgery. I just make it look easy, is all.

seehund 
4/8/08 9:27:38 AM
Hero
Titan


Yeah well you can try doing it like "s**t" in the title but apparently that shit doesn't fly either.

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MrFriendly 
4/8/08 9:31:06 AM
Titan

Quote by 1shot1kill
Quote by Meeko
Do mods have the ability to edit titles?



No.



I've go to other forums what mods and can and do edit inappropriate titles.

Personally I believe it's better than deleting or locking the whole thread.

Maybe an idea for consideration if / when the site gets a bit of dev love and time?

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Gharphield 
4/8/08 10:39:47 AM
Mod
Hero

Immortal


Quote by MrFriendly
Quote by 1shot1kill
Quote by Meeko
Do mods have the ability to edit titles?



No.



I've go to other forums what mods and can and do edit inappropriate titles.

Personally I believe it's better than deleting or locking the whole thread.

Maybe an idea for consideration if / when the site gets a bit of dev love and time?



Ever tried ice skating up a hill? :)

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MrFriendly 
4/8/08 11:00:17 AM
Titan

Quote by Gharphield
Quote by MrFriendly
Quote by 1shot1kill
Quote by Meeko
Do mods have the ability to edit titles?



No.



I've go to other forums what mods and can and do edit inappropriate titles.

Personally I believe it's better than deleting or locking the whole thread.

Maybe an idea for consideration if / when the site gets a bit of dev love and time?



Ever tried ice skating up a hill? :)



I've bladed up hill. Enough of that and your arse will be carved out of marble.

But I get what you're saying.

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