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Pioneer Dreamvision system review Issue 92
Sabot68 
13/8/08 10:04:23 PM
Serf
This system costs nearly $6000, you read right, that’s a 6 followed by three zeros, well $5899 to be exact, and you only get INTERGRATED audio, surely this deserves a WTF.

When I read that in the specifications its lucky it was the evening and not breakfast time as somebody would have worn my cornflakes.
‘Ok’ I thought to myself
‘That will rate a mention in the blerb’ (sorry David I mean well crafted review piece).

Hmm, 'test results, had some issues, become a little excited….'

Ok nothing so far…
Next paragraph….
Ahh here we go,
'not to say without it’s flaws – and some serious ones at that…'
now your talking, but alas no mention of a lack of dedicated sound card in a near $6k system.

Sure the system has some nice gear in it, blu-ray player, xfire HD4870, but for that price I want the best of everything, raided drives maybe even some SSD drives, even a water cooling setup, I sure don’t want integrated audio. I would expect either a top of the line Creative X-fi or Auzentech X-fi Prelude, who cares if you could not hear the difference I’m slapping down 6k of my hard earned.

Remember this price is without a monitor so if you buy one and you don’t have a monitor that supports all of the HDCP nonsense your not going to be able to view your blu-rays in full 1080P which kind of makes the drive redundant, also as pointed out in the review 8GB of ram is overkill unless you are video editing or something similar.

Does anybody else find the lack of an audio card in this system a major omission, or am I expecting too much for the money?

Sabot68



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TheFrunj 
13/8/08 10:14:38 PM
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While I am one for sound cards, the truth of the matter is that most people simply don't care about them any more.

This is also the reason that this thread is created monthly, to have this exact kind of thing posted in it, to save multiple threads:
http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/forums.asp?s=1&c=3&t=2867

And remember too that we don't specify the configuration, but are simply sent whatever they choose. We can only review what is given to us, after all.

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13/8/08 10:15:06 PM
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It's not like audio cards are real expensive.

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Sabot68 
13/8/08 11:11:06 PM
Serf
Quote by TheFrunj
While I am one for sound cards, the truth of the matter is that most people simply don't care about them any more.

This is also the reason that this thread is created monthly, to have this exact kind of thing posted in it, to save multiple threads:
http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/forums.asp?s=1&c=3&t=2867

And remember too that we don't specify the configuration, but are simply sent whatever they choose. We can only review what is given to us, after all.



i was not really having a go at the review, it was more of a comment that a system that is so expensive uses onboard sound, oh and that the review did not find that as note worthy as I did :D

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err0r 
14/8/08 3:23:17 AM
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It's not like buying a Creative card is going to give you noticeably better sound quality over HD onboard anyway. It'll give you EAX, if that's important to you, but otherwise you'll get much bigger improvements by things like external amplification, decent speakers, speaker placement and software EQ if necessary.

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Flouncy 
14/8/08 9:27:10 AM


Quote by err0r

It's not like buying a Creative card is going to give you noticeably better sound quality over HD onboard anyway. It'll give you EAX, if that's important to you, but otherwise you'll get much bigger improvements by things like external amplification, decent speakers, speaker placement and software EQ if necessary.



Not so. Going from onboard sound to an X-fi is, IMHO, the single most impactful and wonderful system upgrade one can possibly make.

My old X-fi died a month ago, I used onboard (Realtek) for a horrible nightmarish week, then bought a Asus Xonar, which was equally horrible, if not worse.

Bit the bullet, returned the Xonar and got another X-fi and now I'm back in happy land.

For games, the impact on CPU is up to 30%, plus of course the quality and EAX. For music, onboard is like standing in the car park of a concert with worms in your ears, X-fi is like being *in* the recording studio with the band.

Seriously.

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David Hollingworth 
14/8/08 11:05:08 AM
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I don't think the lack of a soundcard is a flaw, so much as the inclusion of one is a bonus, if you get my meaning :)

They are certainly not essential, and for a lot of people onboard sound is just fine. Personally, I'm with Flouncy - I <3 my X-Fi.

And is the Pioneer system too expensive? I think yes - it's the fastest thing we've seen, to be sure, but that huge price and limited peripheral range is what kept the score out of Hot Award territory.

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