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Proposal For New HotBox Layout
1carus 
18/7/08 4:44:24 PM
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Greetings Atomic and interested parties!

I am writing today as to propose a new layout for the Hotbox section. Even if my idea is a sham, I am at least hoping to make you think about how to draw new blood to the Australian modding scene and how it can be further encouraged within the Atomic community as a whole.

Previous issues of Hotbox relied on readers submitting their own hotted up PCs, which has sadly and ultimately lead to its demise. Now in the big scheme of things, Australia has a pretty small population with also a relatively small modding, community. Although this more so has to do with the nature of the community itself and not the geographics or demographics of where we live, it certainly doesn’t help either. With each project taking months (and in some cases even years), it’s a lot to ask for (from everyone involved) to have a completely pimped out rig in each month’s issue from an individual within the Australian modding community, who is also aware of the Hotbox competition (let alone one who is keen to submit his/her own personal work for the rest of the world to see and judge).

It is for this reason why I a proposing to widen the pool in which these modded PCs are chosen from for Hotbox of the month. In regards to the widening, I am referring to allowing people from the Atomic community to vote for the best/their favourite modded PCs/parts found around the world.

I am sure there are now people who after reading so far are ready to type a whirlwind of fury against my idea and why it is not possible. However please be patient with me, as after addressing the benefits for both the community and the magazine, I will try and persuade you as to how this is possible.




If your reading this so far thankyou for taking the time to consider my post seriously. By allowing fellow Atomicans to vote for the best\most popular modded PCs/ parts found around the world, many issues within both the Hotbox competition and the Australian modding community can be addressed. The most obvious of course is with such a large selection, the Hotbox will never again be a bland PC with little to no effort put in. Rather, they would be examples for individuals to look up to, and inspire both activity and intense discussions within the Australian community.

By looking at what the rest of the world is doing, we can also see the very bleeding edge fashions and innovations of the industry. Beautiful examples I love are the new Murder-Box PCs or TribalOverkill’s liquid reservoirs. By observing what is going on in the industry as a whole, we can see where modding is generally moving to and therefore further contribute to where it should be moving to.

When Australians notice what other modders around the world are doing and is further brought to forefront of interested parties, it will inspire new innovations within the Australian modding industry, and raise the bar to which we are expected to perform at. Most excitingly, it will motivate modders to make bigger and better creations, pushing the limit just that little bit further and expand our place in the global scene. Throughout time, it can be seen again and again that when new ideas and technologies are brought into a field of interest, the general standard of quality is raised as well.

On another note, as the magazine shows people better cases on consistent basis, it will attract more people modding, bringing fresh blood and new ideas to the community (and the forums).

This is not to say that we the modders are the only ones who benefit from this. Better looking cases will attract more users to the magazine, and an increased number of modding newbies created from this will stimulate more activity within the forums. Also, not having to depend on submissions by users (if at all if that’s the way you guys want to go) will also mean Atomic will never have to worry about publishing a crappy mod, which embarrasses the publication just because it was the best of the submitted pickings.

Now please don’t take this as me saying that there weren’t any good HotBoxes. In fact some of them were so magnificent, they still leave me completely stunned, and others in my opinion are just beautiful expressions of art. It was indeed the HotBox of the month which inspired me to try out my own amateur modding. The real issue lied in the inconsistency of quality being submitted. I’m sure the publishers would have been rather embarrassed throwing in a Lian Li with a few UVs in the same section as Orac3. Due to the number of excellent cases out there, this will completely avoid that issue from now on.

Having these better quality cases displayed within your magazine may also hopefully encourage users with excellent modded machines to come out of the woodwork and submit there machines of pure awesomeness. As the bar is raised overall, the general quality of machines submitted to both the magazine and the forums will also rise, improving the magazines image as a keyholder within this field of interest. Overall I see the benefits for implementing the Hotbox of the month in this fashion has benefits for everyone involved.

The only real setback I can see is getting the original modders permission to have their rig published in the magazine. Firstly to get in contact with them, I imagine it would be very easy to get in contact with them, as most trawl various forums. Secondly, I’m sure most modders would be happy to receive free publicity within a large magazine. Most of the professional/highly specialised modders would probably be ecstatic for the chance to show off their mods within a big publishing, as would their sponsors such AC Ryan, who would see it as free advertising.

Please let me know what you think, and if not, what would be more suitable and why, as I think bringing new blood and popularity to the modding community while raising the benchmark, are all worthy issues to discuss.

Thankyou.

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beatshoes 
18/7/08 5:08:48 PM
Guru

might have better luck with it here champ
http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/forums.asp?s=1&c=3
i've rtm'ed it for you, so the mods may or may not move it.

hotbox has also kinda dissapeared.
its annual now if im not mistaken

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Khirareq 
18/7/08 5:16:35 PM
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We used to be able to vote ;) The four selected systems would be up on the site and you could choose your fave - Plus, I believe the big yearly Hotbox comp is/was based on user votes as well

I believe it was, "adjusted", because of lack of user input - Noone was sending in photos, and there wasnt enough to fill the spots every month - The Hotbox comp was also open to overseas entries as well

It appears your asking for Hotbox back, which personally I would love as well, but I believe it was the lack of community support in the first place which lead to its removal, and I dont know if adding it back is going to revitalise Oz modding really, as Hotbox was the result of modding, not modding the result of Hotbox




I personally believe that allowing embedded images within threads in the modding section here could help the Atomic modding community, but got quickly shot down on that idea



I dunno - Ill have a think ont he way home and see what I can come up with


Edited by Khirareq: 18/7/2008 5:23:47 PM

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1carus 
18/7/08 5:40:42 PM
Serf
Thanks for the quick reply guys. I always thought you could only submit your own machine, not nominate a random machine on the internet. Maybe this might need to be further promoted as a quick look around on the interwebs will show literally dozens upon dozens of crazily hotted up machines, which I have never seen the likes of before.

Hmmm interesting...


Quote by Khirareq
I personally believe that allowing embedded images within threads in the modding section here could help the Atomic modding community, but got quickly shot down on that idea

Edited by Khirareq: 18/7/2008 5:23:47 PM



I personally think this would be a brilliant idea. I know this might seem a little rude in saying it but if Xtreme Systems can do it, then why can't we?

It may be a little bit out of line saying something like this but truthfully I am wanting to see more mods on the forums and judging from other hotbox posts, it appears others do as well.

Its a little bit annoying clicking on a link in an old post to see a funky mod to find the link no longer exists. It would just be sooo awesome if Atomic would allow embedded images.

Anyways as for posting in the modding forum, I didn't even think about the magazine feedback section, so apologies. If a super cool moderator out there could move the whole thread over, then that would be swell...


Edited by 1carus: 18/7/2008 06:04:13 PM

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1carus 
18/7/08 6:00:37 PM
Serf
Woohoo! Thanks for the thread move moderators

:D


Edited by 1carus: 18/7/2008 06:04:23 PM

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TheFrunj 
18/7/08 7:07:27 PM
Titan

Interesting idea.

The modders would have to be paid of course, and contacted. But it is possible (then again, so is anything).

I'll definitely +1 the embedded images in the modding section, would make it so much better, in pretty much every way.

I'm going to be doing a mod eventually, and it should be pretty cool, not to mention wallet-lightening ;)

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Gharphield 
18/7/08 7:19:32 PM
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Why would the modders have to be paid exactly? Contacted yes (as was written in the OP) but paid?

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TheFrunj 
18/7/08 7:40:09 PM
Titan

I dunno, I'd assume that they would want to be paid *shrugs*.

Just an idea/thought that I had, since most people don't do everything out of the kindness of their hearts ;)

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Gharphield 
19/7/08 8:45:44 AM
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Well it's like a game designer being interviewed. He doesn't get paid for that interview, he's there to answer questions and promote whatever game he's working on.

I see your point I just thought it seemed a bit odd that's all.

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1carus 
19/7/08 1:52:01 PM
Serf
I don't think you would need give any incentive at all (no payments, prizes for the best mod, nothing) Most of the professional/highly specialised modders would probably be ecstatic for the chance to show off their mods within a big publishing, as would their sponsors.

For the pro modders, its free publicity and extra street cred (think brand awareness). For their sponsors, it again is free publicity getting their sponsored equipment shown and praised in a big publishing sounds almost like heaven for them. I imagine even your non-professional average Joe modder would be happy with being selected, as merely being associated and praised along with the big boys is a reward enough.

If I was able to have the 832 mod I'm working on now to be published in the same field as MNPC's Phenom project, I would certainly be proud and not need anymore incentive.

I presume other serious modders would feel the same with their projects.

Quote by TheFrunj
Interesting idea... I'm going to be doing a mod eventually, and it should be pretty cool, not to mention wallet-lightening ;)



Hahahahaha the wallet lightening is crazy. I don't want to mention the exact amount, but just on my current project alone, I probably could have bought a whole new gaming rig, and I'm still only half way!

Mind you can you put a price on a piece of art that is unique and which you can call your own? Probably not...


Edited by 1carus: 19/7/2008 1:56:40 PM


Edited by 1carus: 19/7/2008 1:57:24 PM

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1carus 
20/7/08 5:12:06 PM
Serf
More responses pretty please.

I'd love to hear more of what you guys think :)

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Gharphield 
20/7/08 6:11:40 PM
Mod
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I personally like it, having seen some of these Mods that you speak of, the level of detail / art / dedication that goes into them is nothing short of stunning!

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mark84 
29/7/08 10:50:10 AM
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Pics in forums sound good, but realistically likely won't happen until v3 comes, if at all.

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David Hollingworth 
4/8/08 3:48:06 PM
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All very good ideas - trust me, I'd like to see hotbox, and more grass-roots modding in general, and on the site and in the mag.

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1carus 
5/8/08 11:58:30 AM
Serf
Fabulous! Thanks David.

Now I guess I'm wondering how I move this forward. Do I need to create a proof of concept (ie - for example a test article?) or is this something that simply needs to be discussed betwen the editors of the magazine, as to see if it is still appropriate for your business model as both a money maker and an audience pleaser?

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